You are allowed to change the code as all is aGPLv3. but note, by every update from any repo your changes will be overwritten. so I assume most will accept the little hint or just go for the subscription - which we lowered from 9,90 to 4.16 per month - which seems affordable for me. We do not display ads, we do not sell user data, we do not remove features. Just a small hint which can be removed by paying a few euros.Hi Tom,
I understand if you don't want that posted on your forum. It is your forum, after all. Users who need help can use Google.
There is no additional administration work. Modernbill, kayako, etc all used to have monthly leased licenses and its easy to track ... I can write it up quickly. And its easy to figure out who's abusing the system and ban them ... but frankly the incremental business you get from guys who can't / don't want to commit to a year will be more than worth it because this is INCREMENTAL revenues.That, indeed, would be great, but I see a problem there: You could (in theory) just buy a monthly subscription every three monthes, run the updates and let the subscription expire…
To be honest, I also believe that this would top up the administrative work for proxmox big time - so probably a 3-month or 6-month subscription would be more practical.
You can run 3.1 w/o subscription, too - but not with the enterprise repository. Which, as far as I am concerned, is fair.
I have a subscription for all my servers and am going to buy licenses for all of my customers servers. Now that the login screen shows up I have a good argument for them to buy subscription services
Perhaps I should think about becoming a reseller...
I stay with 2 Sockets most of the time. If you want a modestly priced infrastructure you're stuck with 1-2 Sockets - otherwise it's going to be really expensive. I run a hosting-business besides my day-to-day-work. I don't have to live from it - but I don't want to put money form my other job in it. In short: It has to be self-paying.
My overall budget there is about 10-20k/year - and this works just fine...
ha, it gets a bit funny now. You are the one who just ordered 2 times the wrong thing, and shortly after activation canceled the order and asked for refund?There is no additional administration work.
Yes. And the licensing is really fair - just added a new machine... very fair and fast deployment.I think we can be rest assured, Proxmox is not going commercial. They share our heart about the technology, and work from our perspective - the community!
Proxmox has proved time and time again that they are people just like us.
... for my part... I don't like to have religion in a technical discussion. This has nothing to do with christianity (or any other religion). And it's not the Paul of virtualization. not at all.Have fun with the excellent product that we call Proxmox because it is beyond fantastic software. I'm not sure if the developers are Christian, but the software is a godsend... It is the Paul of virtualization.
I will probably get censored because of all this politically incorrect conversation. But it's hard to hold back my passion about this subject
I completely understand your matter as I myself are running a nonprofit-hosting for several customers. I, on the other hand, do understand Proxmox very well. The effort they're putting in the solution as well as supporting it (even on the forum which is taking time of the people working at proxmox) - great service.
If I compare the pricing with VMWare, RedHat KVM or any other subscription I really think there's no way of not going to buy a license.
To be honest:
- Ubuntu Canonical isn't free - and IIRC far higher than the €50/Socket for proxmox
- Oracle VDI (which no longer exists) has a tremendously high price per socket
- VMWare ESXi is free - true. But to get the Life Migration Features it'll cost you IIRC USD300/Socket/Year.
So, please, don't make a drama out of this. You still actually *can* use Proxmox for free - with two "disadvantages":
- Reminder when logging in
- Faster (but maybe less stable) updates.
I see no way why this is going to hurt.