[Community project] Proximo — an open-source, least-privilege MCP/API layer for managing PVE with an AI agent (feedback wanted)

[IsThisThingOn]

Some concrete moments where ive used it:

Maybe I am oldschool, but I look at that list and think, why on earth would I want to do it that way?
I am not against AI. I also use it for stuff.
But for these tasks? These are almost all task where I would want a deterministic result.

To me this feels like instead of clicking on the shutdown button on my notebook, I tell my AI "please shutdown my notebook" and then it sometimes shut it down, sometimes does not and play me some calming sounds to help me sleep instead.

The other part is that I want to learn and grow. Even if AI can help me fixing my trashing container, I have learnt nothing from it.
Also it IMHO leads to make me shoddy setups with wonky network configs, because "AI will fix DNS for me". I think it is quiet sad that everybody want to "build" stuff, but fewer people are willing to actually learn stuff.

To me, all of this is quite an elitist perspective. It is pretending that unless you are a sys admin, running Proxmox is hard and you need an AI for it. While in reality it is pretty easy if you follow best practices.

 

[broadway]

Maybe I am oldschool, but I look at that list and think, why on earth would I want to do it that way?
I am not against AI. I also use it for stuff.
But for these tasks? These are almost all task where I would want a deterministic result.

To me this feels like instead of clicking on the shutdown button on my notebook, I tell my AI "please shutdown my notebook" and then it sometimes shut it down, sometimes does not and play me some calming sounds to help me sleep instead.

The other part is that I want to learn and grow. Even if AI can help me fixing my trashing container, I have learnt nothing from it.
Also it IMHO leads to make me shoddy setups with wonky network configs, because "AI will fix DNS for me". I think it is quiet sad that everybody want to "build" stuff, but fewer people are willing to actually learn stuff.

To me, all of this is quite an elitist perspective. It is pretending that unless you are a sys admin, running Proxmox is hard and you need an AI for it. While in reality it is pretty easy if you follow best practices.

You are old school here. Period, point blank. You're sounding like the disgruntled oldtimer waiting to go out to pasture..

Proximo for me, full stop, has allowed me to run through 20 different lxc's in one night playing with different apps trying to tweak an ARR for the home. It's help me turn my home lab into an extension of how fast i can use my brain aka experiences.

Of course AI makes everything easy to those who really think it's something magical other than a TOOL.. AGAIN, AI is you, you will get out what you put in. Clearly you can see there's knowledge here being baked in. Why or hell, who would even care about 4 pillars if they themselves didnt think that somebody is going to ask AI to do X on their machines....

Seriously, the clutching pearls we all seem to do when the industry changes this drastic is hilarious. USE AI to its fullest, extend your brain, passions and all and put yourself out there.

Proximo helps me. Period full stop. I want it to help others. Period full Stop...

 

[IsThisThingOn]

You're sounding like the disgruntled oldtimer waiting to go out to pasture..

English is not my native language, so there could be a language barrier. To me, there is only one person here that sounds bitter.
I might sound like an oldtimer, I give you that. But I don't sound like an AI shill that is doomed to live forever on mount stupid on the Dunning Kruger curve, so I think I am fine

To me, in the context of Proxmox

USE AI to its fullest, extend your brain,

that is outsourcing my thinking and not extending my brain.

Which is fine, and I have nothing against outsourcing. But like you said, Proxmox and ZFS is

passions

so I would not outsource something that brings me joy.

But again, I understand everybody that does not think learning about blockstorage and pool geometry is fun. If it is just a tool for you, more power to you! But I am questioning, is it even a good tool?
Like does it really provide better results than just plain old reading a getting started manual?
Food for thought; all these problems that "AI is fixing for you" I did not even have to begin with...

 

[broadway]

English is not my native language, so there could be a language barrier. To me, there is only one person here that sounds bitter.
I might sound like an oldtimer, I give you that. But I don't sound like an AI shill that is doomed to live forever on mount stupid on the Dunning Kruger curve, so I think I am fine

To me, in the context of Proxmox

that is outsourcing my thinking and not extending my brain.

Which is fine, and I have nothing against outsourcing. But like you said, Proxmox and ZFS is

so I would not outsource something that brings me joy.

But again, I understand everybody that does not think learning about blockstorage and pool geometry is fun. If it is just a tool for you, more power to you! But I am questioning, is it even a good tool?
Like does it really provide better results than just plain old reading a getting started manual?
Food for thought; all these problems that "AI is fixing for you" I did not even have to begin with...

You still skip right over it.

AI IS NOTHING MORE THAN YOU.. It's a language model. You have to know the topic or something about it to know what to ask, and that's exactly my point back to all of you.

I touched onto something that a NORMIE/Dunning Kruger recipient wouldn't consider because they don't know to ask.

WHO WANTS AN AI MCP/A2A ANYTHING?????

Someone that knows what an MCP/A2A is? Do you know what MCP/A2A is? Have you spent time learning the protocols that are becoming standards in an industry that is still learning itself and its place??

You're talking trash about an ideology; not a product that you haven't even spent anytime TECHNICALLY understanding. THE WHY is the biggest piece you will not like and here's where that lands;

I can manage 1-1000's PVE's in a flash. I can report on them, audit them, hell i can give it the keys and say go and have it aka the AI + Proximo do whatever the API/SSH allows, build out, deploy, et all.

That's INFRAOPS on steroids. That's the seasoned ADMIN elevating his hands to be at more than one place at the same time.

I've designed the 4 pillar concept just for that reason.

Seriously I know im cutting against statuses well established, dont blame me for using the tools and making them bend my world to me.