Request: how to backup PBS to gdrive? What strategies do you use?

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I'm using PVE locally as a desktop.
My current backup startegy: PVE > NAS > gdrive (over Goodsync in WIN10 ((( ) and direct VM backups to gdrive and onedrive.

I want something more solid! Local PBS + cloud seems best for me. I have gdrive unlimited and 1tb onedrive, so would be perfect to use it except I do not know how to achieve block level bkp w it?

I did not setup PBS yet, but planning it ASAP. Beforehand I would like to have a tutorial for couple of scenarios:

1. PVE > PBS > gdrive/onedrive (is there an option in PBS to use gdrive/onedrive directly or it have to be some other way? Block level bkp?)
2. PVE > PBS > any cost effective cold cloud storage service

If it would be a tutorial style I believe many users in community will benefit!I
Also what strategies do you have?

Thnax in advance and merry Xmas and happy New year's eve to all proxmoxers!!!!!
 
I'm using PVE locally as a desktop.
My current backup startegy: PVE > NAS > gdrive (over Goodsync in WIN10 ((( ) and direct VM backups to gdrive and onedrive.

I want something more solid! Local PBS + cloud seems best for me. I have gdrive unlimited and 1tb onedrive, so would be perfect to use it except I do not know how to achieve block level bkp w it?

I did not setup PBS yet, but planning it ASAP. Beforehand I would like to have a tutorial for couple of scenarios:

1. PVE > PBS > gdrive/onedrive (is there an option in PBS to use gdrive/onedrive directly or it have to be some other way? Block level bkp?)
2. PVE > PBS > any cost effective cold cloud storage service

If it would be a tutorial style I believe many users in community will benefit!I
Also what strategies do you have?

Thnax in advance and merry Xmas and happy New year's eve to all proxmoxers!!!!!
I'm trying to implement a backup using PBS, Rclone, and Gdrive, have you done this successfully?
 
This PBS functionality could be native... very interesting. The development team could consider implementing it.
 
I'm trying to implement a backup using PBS, Rclone, and Gdrive, have you done this successfully?
To quote myself ( https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/method-to-copy-pbs-backups-elsewhere.157396/#post-720452 ):
rclone seems to break PBS datastores thus I wouldn't do this:
https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/datastore-synced-with-rclone-broken.154709/
https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/pbs-appears-not-to-write-to-disk.157751/

ZFS send/receive should work but I would throughly test that before trusting my backups with it. The issue is that PBS heavily relies on an attributed called atime which records the last access time of a file or directory. Depending how the data is transferred from one place to another this might get broken, resulting in damaged backups. rclone doesn't seem to handle it well (since rclone can't know about any PBS specifics) while PBS native sync job do.

I personally would use a removable datastore with your external disk in your case. For a offsite backup a cheap vserver or pbs cloud backup provider like tuxis.nl is propably your best bet. Or a mixed approach where you use PBS for local backups and Proxmox VEs native vzdump format on cloud storage for offsite backup. I do something similiar which I discussed here:
https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/backup-pbs-to-cloud-provider-with-incremental-chunks.157965/
 
Perfect !! I'll evaluate theses options. I'm implemeting this approach in this moment :

"I personally would use a removable datastore with your external disk in your case. For a offsite backup a cheap vserver or pbs cloud backup provider like tuxis.nl is propably your best bet. Or a mixed approach where you use PBS for local backups and Proxmox VEs native vzdump format on cloud storage for offsite backup." -

Thanks for sharing your experience !!
 
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