Low ZFS read performance Disk->Tape

dcsapak · Apr 30, 2024

Lephisto said:
let me bump this up. Is there any news regarding tape write performance?

sorry for the late answer, but i did now send some patches that may improve the performance:

https://lists.proxmox.com/pipermail/pbs-devel/2024-April/009162.html
https://lists.proxmox.com/pipermail/pbs-devel/2024-April/009161.html

basically we read the data from the datastore in a single thread, which is probably not optimal for HDD especially when they're in some kind of raid (since then the reads cannot distribute across the disks in parallel)
my patches add a tuning option for the number of threads, and for tapes sets the default to 4 (the same value we currently use for verification threads)

we're going to test that in various configurations (also with a HDD raid array to an LTO-8 drive), i can post the result when we're done with that (no idea when this will be though)

Lephisto · Apr 30, 2024

This is awesome news, I am really looking forward to this..

Lephisto · May 2, 2024

Can I somehow test this without doing a complete PBS build myself? (eG. are there development deb's?)

dcsapak · May 2, 2024

no we don't have dev builds for patches that are not applied + package bumped yet, but we'll still evaluating if the patches are improving the situation
if it does, we'll normally apply + bump the version and then it should be available on test repository relatively shortly after

EDIT: in case you're really curious, you can build it yourself of course, here's a link to our dev documentation (that should include build instructions): https://pbs.proxmox.com/wiki/index.php/Developer_Documentation

Lephisto · May 6, 2024

Looking at the Thread again: If the gains are to visible for a single Spinner, the effect to have multiple IO threads should be even more Interessting on ZFS pools with several Disks...

Lephisto · May 6, 2024

Okay, was i impatient, built PBS myself and can conform significant improvements to the ZFS Performance on Spinners, especially when writing data to tape. Finally I can (at least if no other things are running) saturate the write performance of my LTO9 drive. Before the patch it maxed at 200MB/s, now with 8 iothreads I ceil at 300MB/s (maximum for that LTO9 drive).

Awesome, thank you.

Lephisto · May 6, 2024

More Update on the Topic:

Increased the Thread to 16 (which is core count of the backup machine):

300MB/s (was <=200MB/s volatile) when running a tape job only.
~160-200MB/s (was <= 60MB/s volatile) when tape job was running while a verify job was running.

//What I am noticing now is some sort of decline over a jobs runtime:

Code:

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What could cause this? The tape job still is the only one...

This happened:

dcsapak · May 6, 2024

Lephisto said:
What could cause this? The tape job still is the only one...

mhmm.. how much the disks can read, depends probably largely on how the chunks are laid out on them. so i did further tests (will post in the commit message in a v2 of the patches) that show the chunk layout on disk
can have a large impact on read speed (e.g. are they sequential on disk, or scattered)

Lephisto said:
This happened:

my first seeing this graph would be that the backup now reads from disks that are slower e.g. if you have mixed disks in RAID10 array, then if the later disks in the array are slower this could happen
another thing could be some kind of cache that ran out of space/data (e.g. on a RAID controller)
also thermal limits could play a role here

but to be sure we'd need more data (e.g. atop or similar)

does the perf drop happen always after the same time? or after a specific amount of data ?

Lephisto · May 6, 2024

First I would like to provide you with some Specs:

AMD EPYC 7313 16-Core Processor
12x Seagate Exos 20tb
4x 4tb NVME

It's configured as raid-z3 with a 4-way mirror special device on nvme.

It - seems - that the drop comes in after some time, a few minutes. I made another job:

Code:

2024-05-06T16:30:05+02:00: Starting tape backup job 'px11:px11-mai:lto9:px11'
2024-05-06T16:30:05+02:00: update media online status
2024-05-06T16:30:07+02:00: media set uuid: 1b68f06c-183d-4f85-a40a-eefd1c71acc7
2024-05-06T16:30:08+02:00: found 134 groups (out of 134 total)
2024-05-06T16:30:08+02:00: latest-only: true (only considering latest snapshots)
2024-05-06T16:30:08+02:00: skip snapshot vm/9000/2023-11-05T22:00:01Z
2024-05-06T16:30:08+02:00: skip snapshot vm/10100/2024-05-05T20:30:03Z
2024-05-06T16:30:08+02:00: skip snapshot vm/10101/2024-05-05T20:30:05Z
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2024-05-06T16:30:09+02:00: skip snapshot vm/10245/2024-05-05T20:33:02Z
2024-05-06T16:30:09+02:00: backup snapshot "vm/10501/2024-05-05T20:33:12Z"
2024-05-06T16:30:09+02:00: allocated new writable media 'NSK125L9'
2024-05-06T16:30:09+02:00: trying to load media 'NSK125L9' into drive 'lto9'
2024-05-06T16:34:41+02:00: found media label NSK125L9 (d967a51f-49dd-4659-bf31-b5332e3272f5)
2024-05-06T16:34:42+02:00: moving to end of media
2024-05-06T16:37:14+02:00: arrived at end of media
2024-05-06T16:37:32+02:00: wrote 1564 chunks (4297.59 MB at 233.06 MB/s)
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2024-05-06T16:49:07+02:00: wrote 1520 chunks (4296.02 MB at 201.01 MB/s)
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2024-05-06T16:50:04+02:00: wrote 361 chunks (374.34 MB at 163.63 MB/s)
2024-05-06T16:50:11+02:00: end backup px11:"vm/10501/2024-05-05T20:33:12Z"
2024-05-06T16:50:11+02:00: percentage done: 27.61% (37/134 groups)
2024-05-06T16:50:11+02:00: backup snapshot "vm/10600/2024-05-05T21:15:42Z"
2024-05-06T16:50:34+02:00: wrote 1637 chunks (4298.38 MB at 294.39 MB/s)
2024-05-06T16:50:52+02:00: wrote 1158 chunks (4298.38 MB at 255.39 MB/s)
2024-05-06T16:51:10+02:00: wrote 1126 chunks (4298.64 MB at 255.59 MB/s)
2024-05-06T16:51:35+02:00: wrote 1100 chunks (4296.02 MB at 189.63 MB/s)
2024-05-06T16:51:53+02:00: wrote 1079 chunks (4298.64 MB at 255.55 MB/s)
2024-05-06T16:52:11+02:00: wrote 1105 chunks (4298.90 MB at 255.46 MB/s)
2024-05-06T16:52:30+02:00: wrote 1291 chunks (4296.28 MB at 255.59 MB/s)
2024-05-06T16:52:48+02:00: wrote 1593 chunks (4297.33 MB at 255.96 MB/s)
2024-05-06T16:53:07+02:00: wrote 1261 chunks (4295.23 MB at 256.40 MB/s)
2024-05-06T16:53:25+02:00: wrote 1119 chunks (4296.02 MB at 256.38 MB/s)
2024-05-06T16:53:46+02:00: wrote 1098 chunks (4297.33 MB at 221.40 MB/s)

Thats the Log of the Job currently running..

ZPOOL Layout Config:

Code:

    NAME                                           STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
    datastore                                      ONLINE       0     0     0
      raidz3-0                                     ONLINE       0     0     0
        wwn-0x5000c500daa82a33                     ONLINE       0     0     0
        wwn-0x5000c500dad69eef                     ONLINE       0     0     0
        wwn-0x5000c500dad57c03                     ONLINE       0     0     0
        wwn-0x5000c500daba855f                     ONLINE       0     0     0
        wwn-0x5000c500dae104f3                     ONLINE       0     0     0
        wwn-0x5000c500dadcb543                     ONLINE       0     0     0
        wwn-0x5000c500dae034eb                     ONLINE       0     0     0
        wwn-0x5000c500d7f8276f                     ONLINE       0     0     0
        wwn-0x5000c500dab30c7b                     ONLINE       0     0     0
        wwn-0x5000c500daaf99df                     ONLINE       0     0     0
        wwn-0x5000c500dae0fbeb                     ONLINE       0     0     0
        wwn-0x5000c500daa8d887                     ONLINE       0     0     0
    special
      mirror-1                                     ONLINE       0     0     0
        nvme-eui.01000000000000008ce38ee30052f175  ONLINE       0     0     0
        nvme-eui.01000000000000008ce38ee30052f134  ONLINE       0     0     0
        nvme-eui.000000000000000100a07523417d6ced  ONLINE       0     0     0
        nvme-eui.000000000000000100a07523417d6ce4  ONLINE       0     0     0

atop while job is running:

Interessting tough: Full speed is there for the first few minutes after starting the job, after that read/write starts to decline and stays at a lower level..

//Edit:

Another interessting observation: After the initial decline it seemt to ceil at ~255MB/s. Coincidence?

Code:

024-05-06T18:44:41+02:00: moving to end of media
2024-05-06T18:44:41+02:00: arrived at end of media
2024-05-06T18:44:57+02:00: wrote 1039 chunks (4296.80 MB at 272.55 MB/s)
2024-05-06T18:45:11+02:00: wrote 1035 chunks (4298.64 MB at 302.98 MB/s)
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Lephisto · May 6, 2024

Another observation:

This is how it looks like in the Datastore graph - only the Tape backup job is running, but it constantly shows ~255MB/s:

vs:

Code:

2024-05-06T20:01:25+02:00: backup snapshot "vm/11222/2024-05-05T20:35:05Z"
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Might this be a speed calculation error?

regards.

dcsapak · May 7, 2024

i now sent a v2 of my series: https://lists.proxmox.com/pipermail/pbs-devel/2024-May/009188.html
note that the option on the datastore changed name: from 'read-threads' to 'tape-backup-read-threads'
but aside from that there hasn't changed anything significantly for the tape backup code

curiously i can reproduce the throttling behaviour (on a similar setup that you have). I'll look into it, but I fear that it's something out of our control (e.g. thermal limits, drive limits, cache, etc.) since there shouldn't be any change in behaviour based on time (the code that writes the chunks to tape basically does that only in a loop, i don't see how an additional amount of time could make an impact here code-wise)

Lephisto · May 7, 2024

What type of drive do you use?

dcsapak · May 7, 2024

the one in here: https://www.quantum.com/en/products/tape-storage/superloader-3/

one LTO-8 HH and one LTO-9 HH

Lephisto · May 7, 2024

I notice one thing, which is not totally logical:

Code:

2024-05-07T13:32:18+02:00: wrote 1272 chunks (4299.95 MB at 256.08 MB/s)
2024-05-07T13:32:37+02:00: wrote 1211 chunks (4305.72 MB at 255.80 MB/s) => 4305MB in 19s: 226,578947368 MB
2024-05-07T13:32:55+02:00: wrote 1490 chunks (4295.23 MB at 256.10 MB/s) => 4295MB in 18s: 238,611111111 MB
2024-05-07T13:33:13+02:00: wrote 1548 chunks (4297.06 MB at 256.09 MB/s)

I just picked two examples: This line doesn't make sense: 4305MB in 19s wouldn't be 255.8 MB. 1211*4 aren't 4305MB assuming all chunks are 4MB of size. Something is not totally right here

dcsapak · May 7, 2024

Lephisto said:
I notice one thing, which is not totally logical:

well between those two log files happens a bit more than just the writes, we currently do a few security checks in between the chunk archives (what each line represents)
e.g. checking if the tape is nearly full, we're still at the end of the tape etc.

but i admit it should not amount to over a second, i'll see if we can reduce that, but that has nothing do to with the actual write speed
which is what we measure (from shortly before writing, to shortly after) and that does not change magically after 10 minutes

in the meantime i have written a short tool that basically writes only from memory without any actions in between and there i get ~300MB/s without the drop to ~250MB/s after ~9-10 minutes...
i'll test further to see what the problem here is, but thanks for testing

Lephisto · May 7, 2024

Okay, so we can already rule out the Drive to not be able to sustain the specified 300MB/s.. so the bottleneck must either be the ZFS, or the Code that's pulling the data off.

dcsapak · May 7, 2024

ok thanks to you i looked a little closer on what exactly is happening between those write messages. I noticed that after a certain amount of time there was a gap of ~2 seconds, which would be enough to slow the data flow so that the drive had to slow down.
it turns out, we accidentally synced/wrote to disk on every archive (chunk archive and snapshot archive) after 128 GiB were written on tape (instead of doing that *every 128GiB once*)

i sent a fix for that: https://lists.proxmox.com/pipermail/pbs-devel/2024-May/009192.html

in my tests i still had slowdowns sometimes (but that's probably due to disk and drive limitations, e.g. when it has to reverse it's direction) but it continued on with ~300MB/s after that
since it seems you already have the setup to build your own packages/binaries, would you mind testing this too (in combination with the other patches to retain the high throughput) ?

Lephisto · May 7, 2024

.. build running. It just takes ages.

I have v1 of your series + the fix. will that work?

dcsapak · May 7, 2024

Lephisto said:
.. build running. It just takes ages.

I have v1 of your series + the fix. will that work?

yes that should still work

Lephisto · May 7, 2024

We're getting somewhere:

Code:

2024-05-07T16:56:14+02:00: Starting tape backup job 'zfs:cephfs-mai:lto9:cephfs'
2024-05-07T16:56:14+02:00: update media online status
2024-05-07T16:56:16+02:00: media set uuid: c3d64c07-c811-48f0-9845-086cead14e55
2024-05-07T16:56:16+02:00: found 9 groups (out of 9 total)
2024-05-07T16:56:16+02:00: latest-only: true (only considering latest snapshots)
2024-05-07T16:56:16+02:00: backup snapshot "ns/cephfs1/host/cephfs1n1/2024-05-03T08:30:01Z"
2024-05-07T16:56:16+02:00: allocated new writable media 'AAO809L9'
2024-05-07T16:56:16+02:00: trying to load media 'AAO809L9' into drive 'lto9'
2024-05-07T16:56:17+02:00: found media label AAO809L9 (598019aa-a771-4cf0-956b-42e47b695ef0)
2024-05-07T16:56:17+02:00: writing new media set label
2024-05-07T16:56:28+02:00: moving to end of media
2024-05-07T16:56:30+02:00: arrived at end of media
2024-05-07T16:57:07+02:00: wrote 1588 chunks (4296.02 MB at 116.27 MB/s)
2024-05-07T16:57:21+02:00: wrote 1422 chunks (4297.06 MB at 303.82 MB/s)
2024-05-07T16:57:35+02:00: wrote 1450 chunks (4296.02 MB at 302.19 MB/s)
2024-05-07T16:57:50+02:00: wrote 1469 chunks (4297.59 MB at 298.30 MB/s)
2024-05-07T16:58:04+02:00: wrote 1486 chunks (4299.95 MB at 296.36 MB/s)
2024-05-07T16:58:19+02:00: wrote 1594 chunks (4296.54 MB at 290.92 MB/s)
2024-05-07T16:58:36+02:00: wrote 1738 chunks (4296.54 MB at 252.95 MB/s)
2024-05-07T16:58:50+02:00: wrote 1777 chunks (4296.02 MB at 302.44 MB/s)
2024-05-07T16:59:06+02:00: wrote 2058 chunks (4295.75 MB at 280.02 MB/s)
2024-05-07T16:59:23+02:00: wrote 2938 chunks (4296.28 MB at 254.08 MB/s)
2024-05-07T16:59:37+02:00: wrote 2566 chunks (4295.23 MB at 288.55 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:00:00+02:00: wrote 2428 chunks (4297.59 MB at 194.97 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:00:14+02:00: wrote 2131 chunks (4296.28 MB at 287.30 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:00:35+02:00: wrote 2347 chunks (4297.59 MB at 204.64 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:00:51+02:00: wrote 2428 chunks (4295.75 MB at 284.96 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:01:10+02:00: wrote 3094 chunks (4296.02 MB at 215.88 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:01:26+02:00: wrote 1606 chunks (4301.00 MB at 281.77 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:01:47+02:00: wrote 1721 chunks (4297.85 MB at 198.77 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:02:02+02:00: wrote 1905 chunks (4297.33 MB at 288.59 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:02:15+02:00: wrote 2086 chunks (4295.49 MB at 326.48 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:02:30+02:00: wrote 1564 chunks (4297.06 MB at 303.65 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:02:44+02:00: wrote 1658 chunks (4298.38 MB at 302.87 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:02:58+02:00: wrote 1706 chunks (4301.78 MB at 304.80 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:03:12+02:00: wrote 1825 chunks (4295.75 MB at 297.27 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:03:26+02:00: wrote 1838 chunks (4298.64 MB at 310.33 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:03:40+02:00: wrote 1846 chunks (4295.49 MB at 304.23 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:03:54+02:00: wrote 1504 chunks (4303.88 MB at 304.14 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:04:09+02:00: wrote 1489 chunks (4296.28 MB at 303.59 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:04:23+02:00: wrote 1569 chunks (4295.23 MB at 303.49 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:04:37+02:00: wrote 1630 chunks (4295.49 MB at 304.24 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:04:51+02:00: wrote 1585 chunks (4296.02 MB at 303.50 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:05:08+02:00: wrote 1544 chunks (4298.38 MB at 255.88 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:05:26+02:00: wrote 1437 chunks (4295.23 MB at 255.41 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:05:40+02:00: wrote 1448 chunks (4296.02 MB at 303.58 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:05:55+02:00: wrote 1363 chunks (4295.75 MB at 303.44 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:06:09+02:00: wrote 1359 chunks (4296.80 MB at 303.62 MB/s)
2024-05-07T17:06:23+02:00: wrote 1370 chunks (4296.02 MB at 304.17 MB/s)

At least it comes back to spec speed, I still would expect it to sustain 300MB/s.. I will keep you posted. thanks for the work.

regards.

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