restart pve-manager - restart containers

[Alibek]

Have the next problem: https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/proxmox-cluster-hangs-partially.36209/#post-191417

I kill corosync, stop pve-ha-*, restart pvedaemon.
When I restart pve-manager, containers restarted too.

Why? How to prevent restart containers when restart pve-manager?

# pveversion
pve-manager/4.4-20/2650b7b5 (running kernel: 4.4.95-1-pve)

 

[dcsapak]

pve-manager is not a 'real' service but a systemd-target which is used to start and stop the guests, so restarting it will restart the guests

what are you trying to achieve? the api daemons are 'pveproxy' and 'pvedaemon'

 

[Alibek]

I want to update all servers, when I try update I see next list for update:

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  pve-kernel-4.4.95-1-pve
The following packages will be upgraded:
  base-files bind9-host debconf debconf-i18n dns-root-data dnsmasq dnsmasq-base dnsutils git git-man gnupg gpgv host krb5-locales libbind9-90 libcups2 libcurl3-gnutls libdb5.3 libdbi1 libdns-export100 libdns100 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0
  libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common libgnutls-deb0-28 libgnutls-openssl27 libgnutlsxx28 libgssapi-krb5-2 libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common libicu52 libio-socket-ssl-perl libirs-export91 libisc-export95 libisc95 libisccc90
  libisccfg-export90 libisccfg90 libk5crypto3 libkrb5-3 libkrb5support0 liblwres90 libncurses5 libncursesw5 libnss3 libpam-modules libpam-modules-bin libpam0g libpve-common-perl libssl1.0.0 libtinfo5 libx11-6 libx11-data
  libx11-xcb1 libxcursor1 libxfixes3 libxi6 libxml-libxml-perl libxml2 libxrandr2 libxtst6 linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 linux-libc-dev linux-tools-4.4 ncurses-base ncurses-bin ncurses-term openssh-client openssh-server
  openssh-sftp-server openssl perl perl-base perl-modules procmail proxmox-ve pve-cluster pve-container pve-manager pve-qemu-kvm qemu-server rsync ssh sudo tcpdump tzdata w3m wget
88 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 136 MB of archives.
After this operation, 4 606 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] q^C

Before continue I check on other server different situations, and I found this behavior - when restart pve-manager, restart containers.
I would prefer that the update does not automatically reload the working containers.

 

[Jarek]

To update pve-kernel you need to restart a node.

 

[fabian]

the update does not restart containers, since pve-manager (the systemd service) is not restarted on upgrades, only pvedaemon and pveproxy (the two services providing the API) are. exactly because of this confusion, pve-manager (again, the service ) was renamed to pve-guests (pve-manager is still an alias for now, but might be removed in 6.x)