480GB Pcie3 is of no use today in homelabs.
SATA SSDs are of no use today in homelabs.
Proxmox is destroying my NVMEs
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Well, I wanted something new and reliable, with a long lifespan. Almost 10 years ago, I built my main server using new workstation-class components available at the time: a Xeon E3 1240 v5 with 64 GB of ECC RAM and SATA SSDs. I also built a backup NAS based on the Xeon E3 platform with spinning disks. Used (rack) server gear was never an option for me because it's too loud and power-hungry. And back then, enterprise drives were also considerably more expensive than they became in the years that followed, so I went with new consumer drives.
The main server is a tower build with a Supermicro motherboard, Seasonic PSU, 2x 250GB and 6x 1 TB Samsung EVO SATA SSDs. It cost me quite a bit back then, but IMO it was worth it. It's stll running perfectly fine, and the boot SSDs are now at around 40–50% wear.
My plan was to build a replacement server with a similar budget to what I had back then, but with more ECC RAM and CPU cores. I would use current-generation hardware and perhaps even enterprise-class U.2 or U.3 drives. Obviously, I would use fewer, larger drives this time. The idea was to build something that would last another ten years.
But guess what? Even if I could find all the components I need, the build would now cost roughly two to three times as much as it would have cost a year earlier, putting it well into five figures. So, I then bought a 1L mini PC with 64 GB of RAM to expand my setup without replacing the main server. That was a the beginning of this year, when you could still get a PC wit 64GB of RAM for a three-digit price,
It came with 2x 1TB WD Black SN7100 NVMe SSDs, which are working just fine so far (still on 1% wear) and feel noticeably snappier than the SATA drives in my main server. Random I/O is probably more important here than raw throughput. The DC2000 would likely perform better in that regard than SATA SSDs as well, and perhaps even better than the WD Blacks. But at roughly three times the price of a new WD Black, that's a pretty hard pill to swallow.
I mean, enterprise SSDs have always been more expensive, but now that everything is in a completely different price bracket, they're no longer a realistic option for most people. I mean just look at the 1TB NVMs: Paying €200 instead of €80 is one thing, even though that's already three times as much. Paying €586 instead of €200 is quite another. And just under €100 for a used 480 GB drive isn't exactly appealing either, especially if you remember what prices were like two years ago.
It's all a bit frustrating, to be honest. But anyway, those used DC1000 drives are certainly not a bad deal in this time and age, and I might even consider going that route for the mini PC if the WD Blacks eventually fail. Although, if things keep going this way, by the time that happens, used 1 TB enterprise drives might cost more like €200-300, assuming you can find any at all while new 1 TB consumer SSDs might cost €300–400.
The main server is a tower build with a Supermicro motherboard, Seasonic PSU, 2x 250GB and 6x 1 TB Samsung EVO SATA SSDs. It cost me quite a bit back then, but IMO it was worth it. It's stll running perfectly fine, and the boot SSDs are now at around 40–50% wear.
My plan was to build a replacement server with a similar budget to what I had back then, but with more ECC RAM and CPU cores. I would use current-generation hardware and perhaps even enterprise-class U.2 or U.3 drives. Obviously, I would use fewer, larger drives this time. The idea was to build something that would last another ten years.
But guess what? Even if I could find all the components I need, the build would now cost roughly two to three times as much as it would have cost a year earlier, putting it well into five figures. So, I then bought a 1L mini PC with 64 GB of RAM to expand my setup without replacing the main server. That was a the beginning of this year, when you could still get a PC wit 64GB of RAM for a three-digit price,
It came with 2x 1TB WD Black SN7100 NVMe SSDs, which are working just fine so far (still on 1% wear) and feel noticeably snappier than the SATA drives in my main server. Random I/O is probably more important here than raw throughput. The DC2000 would likely perform better in that regard than SATA SSDs as well, and perhaps even better than the WD Blacks. But at roughly three times the price of a new WD Black, that's a pretty hard pill to swallow.
I mean, enterprise SSDs have always been more expensive, but now that everything is in a completely different price bracket, they're no longer a realistic option for most people. I mean just look at the 1TB NVMs: Paying €200 instead of €80 is one thing, even though that's already three times as much. Paying €586 instead of €200 is quite another. And just under €100 for a used 480 GB drive isn't exactly appealing either, especially if you remember what prices were like two years ago.
It's all a bit frustrating, to be honest. But anyway, those used DC1000 drives are certainly not a bad deal in this time and age, and I might even consider going that route for the mini PC if the WD Blacks eventually fail. Although, if things keep going this way, by the time that happens, used 1 TB enterprise drives might cost more like €200-300, assuming you can find any at all while new 1 TB consumer SSDs might cost €300–400.
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