Proxmox 1.2 & 1.3 Fail to install

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kingnubian

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I've downloaded burned both 1.2 & 1.3 releases at least twice each with the same result. I even tried installing from a usb flash drive.

The PVE cd boots fine & displays the Proxmox splash screen. Upon starting the install, by hitting "Enter', the loading kernel message display for a very short while than everything stops. The screen goes black after about 1min and all disc activity stops. There is no error message to speak of.

This system had been running V1.1 previously, which stilll installs without issue, as well as most recently Zen Server 5 for testing purposes.

I have checked the hardware with live cd's & installs of various os's since the failed installs & the system is functioning 100%.

Here are my new system specs.

Asus M3A76-CM AMD 760G based AM2+ Motherboard
AMD 7750 cpu
4gig DDR2 G.Skill PC2-8000 Ram
2x 1Tb Samsung F1 SATA2 Hard Drives
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 420W Power Supply

Any insight would be appreciated as I would much prefer to have a fresh 1.3 install of this amazing piece of work called Proxmox PVE.
 
kingnubian said:
I've downloaded burned both 1.2 & 1.3 releases at least twice each with the same result. I even tried installing from a usb flash drive.

The PVE cd boots fine & displays the Proxmox splash screen. Upon starting the install, by hitting "Enter', the loading kernel message display for a very short while than everything stops. The screen goes black after about 1min and all disc activity stops. There is no error message to speak of.

This system had been running V1.1 previously, which stilll installs without issue, as well as most recently Zen Server 5 for testing purposes.

I have checked the hardware with live cd's & installs of various os's since the failed installs & the system is functioning 100%.

Here are my new system specs.

Asus M3A76-CM AMD 760G based AM2+ Motherboard
AMD 7750 cpu
4gig DDR2 G.Skill PC2-8000 Ram
2x 1Tb Samsung F1 SATA2 Hard Drives
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 420W Power Supply

Any insight would be appreciated as I would much prefer to have a fresh 1.3 install of this amazing piece of work called Proxmox PVE.
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instead of hitting just 'enter', type 'debug' and enter. this boots up to a console prompt - maybe you see more then.
 
tom said:
instead of hitting just 'enter', type 'debug' and enter. this boots up to a console prompt - maybe you see more then.
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Even using the "debug" option leads to a black screen & nothing else.

Tried installing Zenserver 5 again and it worked 100%. I want to use Proxmox though.

This may be a problem with the latest kernel used in 1.2 & 1.3 as I just tried the latest Mandriva live linux, based on the latest kernel, & it halted as well.
 
Have you tried debian unstable release? I did try debian unstable with asus M378-EM and AMD 9950. That kernel works flawless, proxmox version 1.2 and 1.3 dosn´t work.

Proxmox 1.1 works, have you tried that version?
 
branndal said:
Have you tried debian unstable release? I did try debian unstable with asus M378-EM and AMD 9950. That kernel works flawless, proxmox version 1.2 and 1.3 dosn´t work.

Proxmox 1.1 works, have you tried that version?
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Have not tried the debian unstable release on this box.
I did have Proxmox 1.1 working without issues. I want to do a "Clean" 1.3 install but neither 1.2 or 1.3 can even get into the install.

Than it may just be a kernel issue possibly with the AMD 7xxG based motherboards.
 
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I´ve now tried with an PCI graphics card and ran debug mode on install PVE 1.3.

Installation hangs on

Kernel alive
Kernel direct mapping tables up to 230000000@8000 - 12000

I don´t know if there is several problem with this hardwareconfiguration and proxmox based on debian lenny.

1. graphics, screen goes black.ATI Radeon HD3200 GPU with displayport, vga, hdmi and DVI out.

2. storage chipset, ATI SB700. When I run version 1.1 Proxmox dosent detect the raid device as a single device but as three different hd:s. I had a similar problem with a supermicro server but havent tried version 1.3 on that one yet.
 
branndal said:
I´ve now tried with an PCI graphics card and ran debug mode on install PVE 1.3.

Installation hangs on

Kernel alive
Kernel direct mapping tables up to 230000000@8000 - 12000

I don´t know if there is several problem with this hardwareconfiguration and proxmox based on debian lenny.

1. graphics, screen goes black.ATI Radeon HD3200 GPU with displayport, vga, hdmi and DVI out.

2. storage chipset, ATI SB700. When I run version 1.1 Proxmox dosent detect the raid device as a single device but as three different hd:s. I had a similar problem with a supermicro server but havent tried version 1.3 on that one yet.
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Thank you very much for the followup. Seems like a kernel, Ati/AMD issue. I also read where you wrote that the kernel revision used in unstable worked without any issues.

Is there any chance of getting these issues resolved in Proxmox?
 
just remove RAM so only slot 1 is used during proxmox install... tested with ati/amd

I use a 2Gb in slot 1 but tested with 1Gb also but when more = install failed, same issue as you
when from usb, and when tried from cd it would not find cd on load :O but with 1slot ram used = success :D

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btw look at
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Customizing size of the LVM during installation I wrote my step by step guide there, tested 5 times since 1.3 release all 100%
 
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Hi,

Have tried to remove all ram except th one placed in the first slot. That gives system amount of 2gigs ram. There is no difference, the kernel seems to load and then screen goes black.

Best regards
 
Works so far with all ram installed.

How should I setup RAID. Al the different configurations I have tired ends up with Proxmox only detecing hd:s as standalone devices.
 
I would guess that a motherboard in this price range which claims to implement raid in any form, is most likely a soft-raid variant (ie, requires appropriate drivers for OS in order for raid volumes to behave as expected/desired).

My own feeling is that such raid implementations are worse than "Pure Software Raid" on linux deployments, due to the added complexity of vendor-supplied drivers (often not open source / not properly maintained / or only available for very limited OS selections).

My guess would be, based on symptoms you describe

- the Prox1.1 is based on an earlier debian distro, and if you saw raid properly there, it suggests this underlying debian build had correctly integrated softraid drivers to support your motherboard raid 'properly'

- the newer ProxVE 1.2 and 1.3 are built on a newer / more current Debian, which may "paradoxically" not include support for your softraid chipset. Thus the behaviour you observe

The only workarounds I can think of,

- see if there is any means to enable the softraid for the debian used in ProxVE 1.2/1.3; manually rebuild kernel and boot image files to support this and then you are 'set'. (note this is sometimes straightforward but not trivial process, and can be messy / fiddley; especially if you have never done it before). Also be warned that you expose yourself to potentially higher maintenance workload on this system, since all future ProxVE upgrades might break your raid setup support, requiring manual rebuilds after any upgrade, in order to support your raid config.

- abandon the softraid implementation; cough up a few $100 approx for an inexpensive (true) hardware raid SATA controller which is well supported on Debian / Linux; migrate your data (if any of value) out of the soft raid and into some temporary storage area (external USB disk etc?) and then do clean install on the true HW raid config; and migrate data back in post-install

- accept that you won't have raid config with this hardware, deploy without raid, and make frequent backups if you value your production data :)


I might be mistaken in my interpretation but based on what you see / report; and based on what I see via quick google search in terms of the price of this motherboard; the feature set (raid 0+1 suport in bios, supposedly) and driver availability - it certainly looks like a pseudo-raid / softraid hybrid implementation leading to 'driver' issues.

--Tim
 
Just wanted to put my two cents in. I have been running 1.1 no problem
intel dual core 4gb ram. VT extensions. install was perfect.

Tried to do a clean install of 1.3 (4023), gets to creating root file system and hangs at around 10% every time. Keyboard lights are flashing on and off which would indicate kernel panic methinks.

Took out a 2gb stick of ram, no change.
took out the other stick and replaced the first.
Voila! install went through fine.

once the install was done, i did the memtest on both sticks. Shurenuff, that one stick was bad, bad, bad. Must remember to change the brand. That was the second brand new stick i have had in a week that was bad.

brand is Zeppellin.

Just thought I'd share.

Cheers from tassie, jonnyxx.
 
I am not using the raid feature of this motherboard so I would believe that this isn't the issue on my end.
Ram tested good with memtest running for over 4 hours with 0 errors.


fortechitsolutions said:
I would guess that a motherboard in this price range which claims to implement raid in any form, is most likely a soft-raid variant (ie, requires appropriate drivers for OS in order for raid volumes to behave as expected/desired).

My own feeling is that such raid implementations are worse than "Pure Software Raid" on linux deployments, due to the added complexity of vendor-supplied drivers (often not open source / not properly maintained / or only available for very limited OS selections).

My guess would be, based on symptoms you describe

- the Prox1.1 is based on an earlier debian distro, and if you saw raid properly there, it suggests this underlying debian build had correctly integrated softraid drivers to support your motherboard raid 'properly'

- the newer ProxVE 1.2 and 1.3 are built on a newer / more current Debian, which may "paradoxically" not include support for your softraid chipset. Thus the behaviour you observe

The only workarounds I can think of,

- see if there is any means to enable the softraid for the debian used in ProxVE 1.2/1.3; manually rebuild kernel and boot image files to support this and then you are 'set'. (note this is sometimes straightforward but not trivial process, and can be messy / fiddley; especially if you have never done it before). Also be warned that you expose yourself to potentially higher maintenance workload on this system, since all future ProxVE upgrades might break your raid setup support, requiring manual rebuilds after any upgrade, in order to support your raid config.

- abandon the softraid implementation; cough up a few $100 approx for an inexpensive (true) hardware raid SATA controller which is well supported on Debian / Linux; migrate your data (if any of value) out of the soft raid and into some temporary storage area (external USB disk etc?) and then do clean install on the true HW raid config; and migrate data back in post-install

- accept that you won't have raid config with this hardware, deploy without raid, and make frequent backups if you value your production data :)


I might be mistaken in my interpretation but based on what you see / report; and based on what I see via quick google search in terms of the price of this motherboard; the feature set (raid 0+1 suport in bios, supposedly) and driver availability - it certainly looks like a pseudo-raid / softraid hybrid implementation leading to 'driver' issues.

--Tim
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