Huge IO delay when recovering VM

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Andrew Kobelkov

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Dec 14, 2017
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Hello,

Today I try to recover VM from achive and get a huge IO delay on PVE node.
Before that, everything was fine.
I noticed the following: when "space reduction due to 4K zero blocks" at end of the recovery report is great enough, I get huge IO delay.

For example, when I recover this arhive:
restore vma archive: lzop -d -c /mnt/pve/nas-backup/dump/vzdump-qemu-109-2017_12_14-13_44_36.vma.lzo|vma extract -v -r /var/tmp/vzdumptmp22120.fifo - /var/tmp/vzdumptmp22120
CFG: size: 369 name: qemu-server.conf
DEV: dev_id=1 size: 136365211648 devname: drive-scsi0
CTIME: Thu Dec 14 13:44:45 2017
Using default stripesize 64.00 KiB.
Logical volume "vm-109-disk-1" created.
new volume ID is 'main-data:vm-109-disk-1'
map 'drive-scsi0' to '/dev/sg/vm-109-disk-1' (write zeros = 0)
progress 1% (read 1363673088 bytes, duration 5 sec)
progress 2% (read 2727346176 bytes, duration 12 sec)
progress 3% (read 4091019264 bytes, duration 19 sec)
progress 4% (read 5454626816 bytes, duration 26 sec)
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progress 49% (read 66818998272 bytes, duration 371 sec)
<problem started here>
progress 50% (read 68182605824 bytes, duration 422 sec)
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progress 93% (read 126819696640 bytes, duration 1073 sec)
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progress 96% (read 130910650368 bytes, duration 1073 sec)
progress 97% (read 132274257920 bytes, duration 1073 sec)
progress 98% (read 133637931008 bytes, duration 1073 sec)
progress 99% (read 135001604096 bytes, duration 1073 sec)
progress 100% (read 136365211648 bytes, duration 1073 sec)
total bytes read 136365211648, sparse bytes 75825487872 (55.6%)
space reduction due to 4K zero blocks 37.1%
TASK OK
Click to expand...
At the 50% recovering process I get the 50% and greater IO delay on node. All guest VMs is stuck, web-interface is unresponsible.
The "space reduction" is great enough = 37%.

However, when I recover other archives, I get no problem (when space reduction is quite small).
restore vma archive: lzop -d -c /mnt/pve/nas-backup/dump/vzdump-qemu-102-2017_12_08-06_15_02.vma.lzo|vma extract -v -r /var/tmp/vzdumptmp27425.fifo - /var/tmp/vzdumptmp27425
CFG: size: 403 name: qemu-server.conf
DEV: dev_id=1 size: 171798691840 devname: drive-scsi0
CTIME: Fri Dec 8 06:15:08 2017
Using default stripesize 64.00 KiB.
Logical volume "vm-111-disk-1" created.
new volume ID is 'main-data:vm-111-disk-1'
map 'drive-scsi0' to '/dev/sg/vm-111-disk-1' (write zeros = 0)
progress 1% (read 1718026240 bytes, duration 9 sec)
progress 2% (read 3435986944 bytes, duration 18 sec)
progress 3% (read 5154013184 bytes, duration 26 sec)
progress 4% (read 6871973888 bytes, duration 34 sec)
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progress 98% (read 168362770432 bytes, duration 924 sec)
progress 99% (read 170080731136 bytes, duration 932 sec)
progress 100% (read 171798691840 bytes, duration 938 sec)
total bytes read 171798691840, sparse bytes 1617276928 (0.941%)
space reduction due to 4K zero blocks 0.203%
TASK OK
Click to expand...

Even with large sparse bytes:
restore vma archive: lzop -d -c /mnt/pve/nas-backup/dump/vzdump-qemu-108-2017_12_11-18_24_38.vma.lzo|vma extract -v -r /var/tmp/vzdumptmp45816.fifo - /var/tmp/vzdumptmp45816
CFG: size: 363 name: qemu-server.conf
DEV: dev_id=1 size: 136365211648 devname: drive-scsi0
CTIME: Mon Dec 11 18:24:39 2017
Using default stripesize 64.00 KiB.
Logical volume "vm-111-disk-1" created.
new volume ID is 'main-data:vm-111-disk-1'
map 'drive-scsi0' to '/dev/sg/vm-111-disk-1' (write zeros = 0)
progress 1% (read 1363673088 bytes, duration 5 sec)
progress 2% (read 2727346176 bytes, duration 9 sec)
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progress 100% (read 136365211648 bytes, duration 39 sec)
total bytes read 136365211648, sparse bytes 129111408640 (94.7%)
space reduction due to 4K zero blocks 0.595%
TASK OK
Click to expand...

As you can see, the IO delay was great only if the "space reduction" is great enough. Well, at least - I think so )

I run PVE 5.1-36 on HP Proliant DL380p Gen8. Storage is LVM-thin on hardware RAID5 with BBWC.
PVEPERF is:
Code: 
CPU BOGOMIPS:      95751.60
REGEX/SECOND:      1385077
HD SIZE:           126.18 GB (/dev/mapper/pve-root)
BUFFERED READS:    232.80 MB/sec
AVERAGE SEEK TIME: 5.03 ms
FSYNCS/SECOND:     5366.26

Any ideas/suggestions?
 
Andrew Kobelkov said:
Can I turn off the "space reduction@ feature during VM backup?
Click to expand...
No.

Andrew Kobelkov said:
As you can see, the IO delay was great only if the "space reduction" is great enough. Well, at least - I think so )
Click to expand...
This is very likely due to some cache running full and LVM syncs to the RAID. A alternative is to restore to a non-LVM storage and use the disk move option.
 
we are evaluating migrate to another platform for this...
Same problem, SAS disks (but RAID 10) and same server.
After 50% of recovery task the IO delay goes up! and other times for other backups goes well (less big but not significantly).

When recover VM at another storage like same "BackUp" storage the problem dissapear.. but then if I want to move disk to the vms-storage (local default Thin-LVM) the IO Delay grows and VMs hang
 
Last edited:
You can also try to set a bandwidth limit (man datacenter.cfg), but in the end it comes down to how fast the lvm-thin pool can write.
 
I have said it many times, but there should be a way to limit IO on both backups and restores. I know there are some command line options, but there should be something in the GUI for this. I've seen quite a few threads like this so there is no doubt it causes people issues.
 
We already implemented a GUI for a restore speed limit.

limit-restore-speed.png
 
Nice! good update!

now, for example, for 23GB vzdump backup.. what limit to apply? how to determine de optimal value ?
thanks again!
 
silvestrefigueroa said:
Nice! good update!

now, for example, for 23GB vzdump backup.. what limit to apply? how to determine de optimal value ?
thanks again!
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That is really enviroment specific. I know in my enviroment 400-500MB/s is pushing it and causes latency to skyrocket. Personally I would run at 100-200Mb/s. You could kick off a restore with no limit, see what it runs at, then cut it in half.
 
adamb said:
That is really enviroment specific. I know in my enviroment 400-500MB/s is pushing it and causes latency to skyrocket. Personally I would run at 100-200Mb/s. You could kick off a restore with no limit, see what it runs at, then cut it in half.
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need to test and tune :D

are there some command / param to test it with out apply server update?
 
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