Happy Birthday - Proxmox VE is 3 years old!

martin

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I just noticed that exactly 3 years ago we released the first Proxmox VE ISO.

In 2007/2008 just a few people knows KVM and most asked why we did not choose XEN - but it looks we did the very right decision to combine KVM with container virtualization.

I am pretty sure that we also go the right way with the new architecture for the upcoming Proxmox 2.0 series which will be available later this year.

Open Source projects are nothing without an active community and I want to thanks all active members helping each other in a professional way - also beginners are welcome here.

Here are some statistics about Proxmox VE
  • 16.700 Proxmox VE Hosts (daily updating servers)
  • More than 6.600 forum members with more than 34.000 posts
  • Most postings are answered within a few hours
So keep connected and happy virtualization with Proxmox VE!!!

Best regards,
Martin
 
Thanks very much for your great work!!
I use Proxmox with very happy success.
I also start a project using proxmox on two server with DRBD+PACEMAKER for HA VM. And seems work great!!

My only consideration is this one (if i can,please keep as suggest):
- For many good server Brand (HP,IBM etc) there is no driver (RAID Controller, Network Adapter etc) for Debian
- After i use Centos from some year i found yum very usefull package manager and i must cant say the same for aptitude
- Centos/RHEL support, repository seems very good and up to date
- KVM is sponsored from RedHAT

I think a good solution like ProxMox need to go out in many business scenario but it may need Driver & support for latest hardware, so what i say is: Why not use CENTOS?
Many thanks
Sincerely
Dimitri Bellini
 
Regarding drivers and Kernels:
We do not use Debian kernel, we use Proxmox VE kernel - currently we have three different branches with different features.

2.6.18 - based on RHEL5 - looks like you prefer this one.
2.6.32 - based on Debian Squeeze
2.6.35 - based on Ubuntu 10.10

If there is a missing driver, we do a backport. So its not true that "a lot of new hardware" is not supported.

Our team is committed to Debian since 15 years as its the only real "free" distribution with no big company behind.

A few words to CentOS: We will never use distribution like CentOS as its just a plain copy of RHEL with the goal to benefit from the work of others. If you like Redhat, you should use and buy Redhat.
 
Good work Proxmox team!
I will never regret the sudden, not tested change I made ​​in my production environment from VMware to Proxmox.
And congratulations on the 3 years!
 
Hi Martin
i'm sorry my comment is only a consideration, i dont want create a flame :)
Your Team have made great work so thanks so much and i hope in very shine future!!
Sincerely
Dimitri

Regarding drivers and Kernels:
We do not use Debian kernel, we use Proxmox VE kernel - currently we have three different branches with different features.

2.6.18 - based on RHEL5 - looks like you prefer this one.
2.6.32 - based on Debian Squeeze
2.6.35 - based on Ubuntu 10.10

If there is a missing driver, we do a backport. So its not true that "a lot of new hardware" is not supported.

Our team is committed to Debian since 15 years as its the only real "free" distribution with no big company behind.

A few words to CentOS: We will never use distribution like CentOS as its just a plain copy of RHEL with the goal to benefit from the work of others. If you like Redhat, you should use and buy Redhat.
 
A few words to CentOS: We will never use distribution like CentOS as its just a plain copy of RHEL with the goal to benefit from the work of others. If you like Redhat, you should use and buy Redhat.

Huh? Well, if you don't want to use CentOS, that's your prerogative, but the rest of that statement just ain't so. Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS.

While I believe the CentOS project has some major organizational flaws that need addressing, it makes fully legitimate and allowable (under the GPL) use of the Red Hat sources to build its distribution, and it does fill a niche for those who cannot afford or simply do not need the full Red Hat support packages. As long as CentOS adheres to the licensing of the software it incorporates into the distribution and does not infringe on any of Red Hat's rights, then I don't see any valid basis for your assertion above. CentOS is also not the only distribution that uses Red Hat's sources as a base - Oracle Linux and Scientific Linux are two others I'm aware of.

Red Hat not only benefits from the work of others who do the actual development of the software that goes into their distribution, but they also make a nice profit from it. If you apply the "builds on someone else's platform" criteria to assert that one should not use CentOS, then should not the exact same criteria be applied to Red Hat as well?
 
Huh? Well, if you don't want to use CentOS, that's your prerogative, but the rest of that statement just ain't so. Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS.

While I believe the CentOS project has some major organizational flaws that need addressing, it makes fully legitimate and allowable (under the GPL) use of the Red Hat sources to build its distribution, and it does fill a niche for those who cannot afford or simply do not need the full Red Hat support packages. As long as CentOS adheres to the licensing of the software it incorporates into the distribution and does not infringe on any of Red Hat's rights, then I don't see any valid basis for your assertion above. CentOS is also not the only distribution that uses Red Hat's sources as a base - Oracle Linux and Scientific Linux are two others I'm aware of.

All these distributions are legal, yes. But all are more or less just 99,99 % copies of the work of Redhat (RHEL distribution), mainly with just one very simple goal - not paying anything in order to make just higher profits from the work of others. All these clones started after Redhat introduced the subscription model.

So do you think this is the right way? I don´t think that such models will work in the long run. Some guys at Redhat already think about changes in their setup, the first result is the way how Redhat provide kernel patches - now very hard for others to see what patches they applied - whats next?

So I can just recommend to all Linux users to go for a real free base distribution like Debian - or if you like Redhat, buy it instead of using clones.

Red Hat not only benefits from the work of others who do the actual development of the software that goes into their distribution, but they also make a nice profit from it.
Making profit is quite ok and needed in our business (If we like or not). Redhat employs a lot of developers - but how many developers are paid by centos or SL (to name the two biggest clones, Oracle is a different)?

If you apply the "builds on someone else's platform" criteria to assert that one should not use CentOS, then should not the exact same criteria be applied to Red Hat as well?
yes, thats what I do. do a good work, make money, and give something back. how many centos servers are running/sold from the biggest hosting companies and how much do they give back to the open source community/centos project? Obviously the centos model is currently not working.

BTW, I like to discuss about such general topics but this very unrelated to Proxmox VE so I suggest we stop here and if you want you can write directly to me, t.huber@pr....
 
I just noticed that exactly 3 years ago we released the first Proxmox VE ISO.

In 2007/2008 just a few people knows KVM and most asked why we did not choose XEN - but it looks we did the very right decision to combine KVM with container virtualization.

I am pretty sure that we also go the right way with the new architecture for the upcoming Proxmox 2.0 series which will be available later this year.

Open Source projects are nothing without an active community and I want to thanks all active members helping each other in a professional way - also beginners are welcome here.

Here are some statistics about Proxmox VE

  • 16.700 Proxmox VE Hosts (daily updating servers)
  • More than 6.600 forum members with more than 34.000 posts
  • Most postings are answered within a few hours

So keep connected and happy virtualization with Proxmox VE!!!

Best regards,
Martin

Congratulations! Thanks for making one of the best distros for virtualization!
 
Prost, cheers and congratulations :)
Proxmox VE really is an incredibly well done solution. I can't believe what a great job you guys are doing. Keep it up. Best wishes!
 
Let me join and wish great future for this wonderful project.
Tons of thanks and support for the upcoming 2.0 era

Bests
 
Excellent work guys! The Proxmox project is a fantastic piece of work and I can see it becoming even more popular in the future - I recommend it to everyone I know, even my Mum and she hates computers...

Top, top work.

c:)
 
Thank you very much for the hard work and dedication you guys put into this project. It surely has helped a lot, including myself. I have been very happy and impressed with what I am getting from it. I hope that you produce more and have the community grow bigger so it would benefit as all. Again, thank you for your commitment and congratulations!
 
:p:pHappy Happy Birthday:p:p Thanks for all the support on the forum of over that past years!! You guys have been great and offer a great solid product!!
 

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