drbdmanage license change

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  1. Black Knight MHT

    Black Knight MHT New Member

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    Hi!
    As I could understand.....if i use DRBD9 now and upgrade my nodes to the latest version - DRBD will be broken!?!
     
  2. dietmar

    dietmar Proxmox Staff Member
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    no - nothing is broken currently.
     
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  3. Black Knight MHT

    Black Knight MHT New Member

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    And what about nearest future?
    Will I able to setup another nod with this software?

    DRBD9 is very comfortable.....
     
  4. Philipp Reisner

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  5. javii

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    Would be possible to create a LINBIT's DRBD8 repository for Proxmox?

    That would be great.

    AFAIK DRBD9 is not stable yet.
     
  6. X1M

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    How is Sheepdog and Proxmox doing, are it stable in Proxmox and could it take over the role of DRDB for smaller cluster systems?

    Link: http://www.sheepdog-project.org/
     
  7. jasminj

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    Please read this thread, especially this answer from Linbit:
    ---> "Not publicly available from LINBIT."

    You can get the packages for Debian Jessie here and they work also in my setup with Proxmox 4.4. I supported the Proxmox extensions of the DKMS package.

    In the mentioned tread above, you will find also a discussion about my Proxmox DRBD8 Storage plugin. Maybe
    it is useful for you. I have currently no no time to improve the description in the GIT repo, due to my vacation, but in that thread I added a lot how it works.
     
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    Interesting move... hopefully the proxmox staff include DRBD again - one choice which fit good for some environments.

    Udo
     
  10. jeffwadsworth

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    I have used DRBD9 in the past (finally more than 2 nodes!) and it works very well, but I would bet that for the sake of simplicity, Ceph will continue to dominate their attention. The GPL deal might have been the final tip off the ledge.
     
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    do someone have any update about the issue?
     
  12. titux

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    Yes!!!
    https://www.linbit.com/en/drbd-manage-faq/

    DRBDMANAGE IS BACK GPL..
    So please Proxmox staff guide us on how to upgrade to latest DRBDManage version (we are having a lot of problems with resources being move to connecting state after connection loss)
     
  13. e100

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    When linbit changed the license Proxmox removed the DRBD stuff. Linbit then took over development of the Proxmox plugin and created a repository for it.
    You need to switch over to using linbit repo for DRBD components.

    https://www.drbd.org/en/doc/users-guide-90/s-proxmox-install

    I've not seen anything to indicate that Proxmox will bring back DRBD.
     
  14. titux

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    Thanks e100, are you aware if the repo supports Proxmox 4.4 ??
     
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    I talked to proxmox support and was told they are not going to add drbd to the proxmox repository again.

    I also contacted linbit about possible business support for drbd with proxmox. That was two weeks ago, no reply yet. Only the sales contact told us he (re-)forwarded our question to the technical department.

    Without support from either company the risk of the cluster breaking on some future upgrade is just too high, even if everything worked fine now (which it didnd't for us: on our first experimental try we had difficulties getting a fresh proxmox 4.4 3-Node Cluster with drbd9 to work properly.).
    We are currently looking into ceph as an alternative (trying to find a setup without multiplying our hosting budget).
     
  16. udo

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    Hi,
    that's sad!

    Udo
     
  17. tom

    tom Proxmox Staff Member
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    As long as Linbit it unable to support their own products, its impossible for others like Proxmox to support anything. So if you complain about DRBD, sent the emails to Linbit.
     
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  18. Xahid

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    Now, DRBD9 is stable !
    dunno, why didn't they flash the news.
     
  19. titux

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    We (or at least I) are not complaining about DRBD its far better than CEPH at least for low requirement use cases (which you obviously dont want to support). We are complaining about :
    1-Linbit's really inmature choice of leaving GPL and then resumin it. Not serius thing..
    2-Proxmox's inmature attitude of not resuming DRBD integration as it did in previous years.(dont have a reason for not doing it)

    We dont care if you guys dont like each other, we are a community that loves open source and pays for support (if we think it worth it) but please act like serious companies.

    Regards
    Hector.
     
  20. tom

    tom Proxmox Staff Member
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    I do not get your point. DRBD9 plugin if offered by linbit.com, why donĀ“t you just use it?
     
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