PBS as a hosted service

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yatesco

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Hi all,

It would be great if there was a somewhat "authoritative" source of hosted PBSs. If there isn't already one, can we add replies to this please.

I've found:

- https://remote-backups.com/ (free 100GB, EUR10.00 per TB)
- https://portal.tuxis.cloud/pbs (free 150GB, EUR19.84 per TB)

and BTW, if anyone is interested in this, you can get some insanely cheap dedicated servers from Hetzner (no affiliation) which would be ideal for this:

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EDIT: tuxis no longer have a free tier (temporarily): https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/t...server-beta-service.76320/page-16#post-750230
EDIT: remote-backups.com have introduced a different pricing plan
 
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Inett is another PBS as a service provider (20 € per TB, 0,02 € per GB): https://pbs.inett.de/

Netcup is a vserver provider (like hetzner), so an alternative if you don't mind maintaining your PBS on your own to save some bucks.
Of course any vserver with enough storage space will do for this usecase as long as you can install PBS or Debian on it (since you can install PBS to an existing Debian system).
 
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yatesco said:
if anyone is interested in this, you can get some insanely cheap dedicated servers from Hetzner (no affiliation) which would be ideal for this:

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One should take care to get a server with at least two enterprise SSDs so you can have a special device mirror together with a HDD mirror, otherwise you will wait forever for your garbage collection and verify jobs to finish:
https://pbs.proxmox.com/docs/sysadmin.html#local-zfs-special-device

The filter function of the "Serverauction" is quite handy for that:
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As you see I enabled ECC and searched for SATA SSDs, of course you can also do such as search for different storage space or NVME SSDs and disable ECC if cou can live with the added risc of bitrot.
Sadly Hetzner hasn't a feature to search only for datacenter or enterprise storage so you have to take a close look to get the ideal configuration.
 
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Just to expand on the Hetzner Serverbrowser, there's also "Server Radar" (https://radar.iodev.org/configurations) which allows more filters, saved searches, price tracking and notifications.
But from what I've tracked over the last few months of looking it's rare that there are servers with 4 SSDs (2 for Boot, 2 for ZFS Special device) and a good capacity of HDDs.

The SX65 also cannot be upgraded with 2 additional SSDs, they offered me to exchange the boot disks for bigger onces so if you plan carefully you might be able to partition the SSDs in a certain way but.. yeah... won't be the "perfect" solution, which is a bit sad.
 
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bennetgallein said:
The SX65 also cannot be upgraded with 2 additional SSDs, they offered me to exchange the boot disks for bigger onces so if you plan carefully you might be able to partition the SSDs in a certain way but.. yeah... won't be the "perfect" solution, which is a bit sad.
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To be fair Hetzner still has quite good value for money (no I don't get a bonus for this, I don't even work for them ;) but in the end it's all due to their rigorous Standardisation and automation. My guess would be that a usecase like ours is still to much of a niche to be of interest for them (otherwise it would make sense for them to provide their own PBS as a service offer simmiliar to their Nextcloud hosting service). Of course one would still need another backup outside of hetzner for emergencies
 
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Johannes S said:
One should take care to get a server with at least two enterprise SSDs so you can have a special device mirror together with a HDD mirror, otherwise you will wait forever for your garbage / verify jobs to finish:
https://pbs.proxmox.com/docs/sysadmin.html#local-zfs-special-device

The filter function of the "Serverauction" is quite handy for that:
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As you see I enabled ECC and searched for SATA SSDs, of course you can also do such as search for different storage space or NVME SSDs and disable ECC if cou can live with the added risc of bitrot.
Sadly Hetzner hasn't a feature to search only for datacenter or enterprise storage so you have to take a close look to get the ideal configuration.
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At the Moment, I doesn't have a special device. With 1,3TB it is not so bad. 7h was the most I think.
 
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People who put PBS on a remote server, how do you make it work with nginx?
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I don't, it runs on it's normal port, https is done with native acme support, remote access is done with wireguard VPN.

For a pull sync not even that would be needed
 
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