Hetzner is dropping Ceph support

Rares

Active Member
Feb 28, 2017
66
5
28
Hello, hello,

I just got informed that:
For a long time, we have offered you two different storage types for our Intel based standard servers: Local (NVMe SSD) and Network (Ceph). Local storage has always offered superior storage performance and latency while being on the same level of stability, making it the best choice.

What do you think is the reason here? Is Ceph not worth it? In the long run it works just fine to have ZFS with replication every 5 minutes all over the place? Maybe it's more cost effective and less complex.

Looking forward for your opinion,

Thank you,
Rares
 

dietmar

Proxmox Staff Member
Staff member
Apr 28, 2005
17,126
526
133
Austria
www.proxmox.com
In the long run it works just fine to have ZFS with replication every 5 minutes all over the place? Maybe it's more cost effective and less complex.
Sure, local storage cost less and is simpler. But it is something completely different than ceph (a distributed, shared, network storage).
 

bbgeek17

Active Member
Nov 20, 2020
947
180
43
www.blockbridge.com
What do you think is the reason here?
Generally, when a for-profit company stops providing a service it means they are not making money on it.
Ceph is an open source product developed by many different individuals and some corporations, that means that Hetzner was not spending money on software development. So it leaves just one expense - support. We can guess that not enough people were willing to pay to cover the support and make profit. And that even keeping Ceph offering around as loss leader was not worth it.

Keep in mind these appear to be custom Ceph nodes/services that are being dropped. It doesn't stop you from buying nodes with NVMe disks and using them with your own Ceph installation or PVE/Ceph. But it does mean that supporting that setup is no longer Hetzner problem.

I am not familiar with Hetzner offering - were the Ceph nodes perhaps HDD based, given that they stress performance benefit of local storage?


Blockbridge : Ultra low latency all-NVME shared storage for Proxmox - https://www.blockbridge.com/proxmox
 

About

The Proxmox community has been around for many years and offers help and support for Proxmox VE, Proxmox Backup Server, and Proxmox Mail Gateway.
We think our community is one of the best thanks to people like you!

Get your subscription!

The Proxmox team works very hard to make sure you are running the best software and getting stable updates and security enhancements, as well as quick enterprise support. Tens of thousands of happy customers have a Proxmox subscription. Get your own in 60 seconds.

Buy now!