etch to lenny ?

Hi,

Can i change etch to lenny in the sources.list ?

BR

Proxmox VE 1.1 is based on Etch, so you should not change to Lenny. If you do this, you have an untested and unsupportable system.

I suggest you wait till we officially moves to Lenny.
 
As a bit of follow-up, it is my beginner's understanding that an OpenVZ vm depends on parts of the underlying OS for support so an incomplete OS exists in the vm. If so, what happens to Etch virtual boxes when the host OS is upgraded to Lenny?

Again, sorry if this is a dumb Q.

Thanx,
Garth
 
As a bit of follow-up, it is my beginner's understanding that an OpenVZ vm depends on parts of the underlying OS for support so an incomplete OS exists in the vm. If so, what happens to Etch virtual boxes when the host OS is upgraded to Lenny?

Again, sorry if this is a dumb Q.

Thanx,
Garth

The upgrade to Lenny will be very smooth and easy (VM´s configuration will not change).

Schedule: about 04/09

Just a question:
What do you miss on Etch that you want to move fast to Lenny?

br, martin
 
Just a question:
What do you miss on Etch that you want to move fast to Lenny?

I mostly miss an updated kernel.

I.e. starting with 2.6.25 (or 2.6.26?) it is possible to see how much a given process is being swapped out. Why is it useful? To see which of your KVM guests are being swapped out (i.e. because they were not doing anything, or just because you don't have enough memory, or just to debug a performance issue which shows up in some but not all KVM guests).

See below script.

#!/usr/bin/perl

use strict;
use warnings;

foreach(</proc/*>)
{
next unless(/^\/proc\/([0-9]+)$/);
my $PID=$1;
my $sum=0;
open F,"<$_/smaps";
while(<F>)
{
next unless(/^Swap:\s+([0-9]+)\s+.*$/);
$sum+=$1;
}
open F,"</proc/$PID/cmdline";
my $cmd=<F>;
if($sum>0)
{
$cmd=~y/\0/ /;
print "$PID\t";
if($sum>1024)
{
$sum/=1024;
printf "%.2f MB",$sum;
}
else
{
print "$sum KB";
}
print "\t\t$cmd\n";
}
}
 
I am still not lucky with 2.6.24 regarding OpenVZ live-migration and (hanging) putty-session. However live-migration does not work with any kernel (i tried) as it should. 2.6.26 does not freeze my session like 2.6.24 does but did not live-migrate machines built on CentOS4 or CentOS5 templates (Debian worked better with 2.6.26 then with 2.6.24). I remember 2.6.26 was more like 2.6.18 regarding live-migration. I remeber regarding 2.6.27 too and I think that was fixed in meanwhile. There is a new patch for 2.6.24 and I will try with that again regarding Putty-Hang... However I would prefer bugs report for a newer system ;) then searching and reporting bug´s that does not occur in 2.6.26.

I would like Lenny (or Squeeze :D) as base too but can wait a little bit. Normally when Debian is releasing final versions they are not that ultimate-fresh anyway compared to other distros (but I still like it). :D

Greetings,
user100
 
I would also like to switch to 2.6.29, but ...

Seems that OpenVZ still now know whats there next stable release.

- Dietmar
 
What do you miss on Etch that you want to move fast to Lenny?

I miss newer version of lm-sensors, because Etch version does not adeqately support my motherboard, it do show the temperature, but with some errors, but I can not change hyst values for temperature and default values are not affordable. And I am waiting for Lenny for another reason, I plan to install new server, but wait for Lenny because if I install Etch now, it seems to me that migration to Lenny would be painful.

And just a question, why don't you have stable/unstable branches like Debian, you could have for example Etch as Stable and Lenny as Unstable long ago, judging by questions around there are people, who could test and report bugs while waiting for stable Lenny?
 
I miss newer version of lm-sensors, because Etch version does not adeqately support my motherboard, it do show the temperature, but with some errors, but I can not change hyst values for temperature and default values are not affordable. And I am waiting for Lenny for another reason, I plan to install new server, but wait for Lenny because if I install Etch now, it seems to me that migration to Lenny would be painful.


Migration to Lenny will be easy for standard Proxmox VE installations. we will do the move as soon as possible.

And just a question, why don't you have stable/unstable branches like Debian, you could have for example Etch as Stable and Lenny as Unstable long ago, judging by questions around there are people, who could test and report bugs while waiting for stable Lenny?

I would like to have this but currently there is no time to maintain two branches.
 
What part of lm_sensors do you need? Is it possible to download the headers (apt-get install pve-kernel-headers) and gcc (apt-get install build-essential) and compile an updated lm_sensors and install?
 
I would also like to switch to 2.6.29, but ...

...it is still not released as stable on kernel.org nor included as stable kernel in Lenny yet? ;) - 2.6.24 is no "stable" openvz-kernel as well.

What I would say: I don´t fear 2.6.24 even if it´s not marked stable yet (but I´m not fully lucky with it). Why should I dislike 2.6.26 when the "stable Lenny" is including it now? Lenny is no longer the "testing" distribution (nor the "unstable"). When I install lenny and OpenVZ I would get a 2.6.26 kernel now. Even if 2.6.24 should be used for some reason I would prefer lenny as distri over etch. One reason for me to look for an alternative to Xen was 2.6.18 and etch and some disheartening disuccions of the future of Xen (64bit) in lenny (which changed in meanwhile because it seems to be included fully now) and KVM and Redhat on the other side. Today 2.6.18 is still the stable kernel of OpenVZ but it´s getting not younger in meanwhile.


Greetings,
user100
 

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