Proxmox wont see raid array

MIleHighMontana

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Hi All. I am a total noob when it comes to this so please bear with me. I did use the search function but either didnt find anything that answered my questions or I was too dumb to understand what was being talked about.

I have a HPE ML350 G9 server with the B140i raid controller. I set up an raid 1 array using 2 SSDs use the HP Smart Storage Administrator and I believe I have it set to be a logical drive. (To get the server to see the drives, I had to enable ACHI mode in the bios).

My issue is that the proxmox installer doesnt see the raid array, it only sees the individual drives.

What do I need to do to be able to install proxmox on the raid array?
 
Hi All. I am a total noob when it comes to this so please bear with me. I did use the search function but either didnt find anything that answered my questions or I was too dumb to understand what was being talked about.

I have a HPE ML350 G9 server with the B140i raid controller. I set up an raid 1 array using 2 SSDs use the HP Smart Storage Administrator and I believe I have it set to be a logical drive. (To get the server to see the drives, I had to enable ACHI mode in the bios).

My issue is that the proxmox installer doesnt see the raid array, it only sees the individual drives.

What do I need to do to be able to install proxmox on the raid array?

That's always been a driver issue, see e.g.:
https://access.redhat.com/articles/118133

HP did support these for some Red Hat and SUSE, see page 3:
https://www.hpe.com/psnow/doc/c04390740

I only know people run these in AHCI mode.
 
Sorry, I just realised looking up at your original post that you have already done so, so if you want to insist on using PVE installer and need a mirror, you could choose ZFS or BTRFS in the installer. There are other setups possible (with e.g. MDRAID), but it's not soomething I would advise to a new user.

(The forum here is very pro-ZFS, so if you go that path, although there's a learning curve, you will get lots of replies.)
 
Sorry, I just realised looking up at your original post that you have already done so, so if you want to insist on using PVE installer and need a mirror, you could choose ZFS or BTRFS in the installer. There are other setups possible (with e.g. MDRAID), but it's not soomething I would advise to a new user.

(The forum here is very pro-ZFS, so if you go that path, although there's a learning curve, you will get lots of replies.)
Thank you. I will look into ZFS.
 

I know others do not like me pointing this out, but the official Proxmox ZFS resources feels a bit like marketing + outdated ZFS concepts guide. I am also biased against ZFS for root usage. But if I were to draw my deeper knowledge on ZFS (renamed from ZFS on Linux to OpenZFS since), I would hang around these:

https://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/Performance and Tuning/index.html

Also, there's plenty good on YouTube channel of OpenZFS and probably even better from BSD community.

And by all means, the best introductions to ZFS were those of the original Sun staff, such as Lori Alt, Bill Moore and of course Jeff Bonwick.
 
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Heh. I just scanned through that wiki link before I posted it. I felt it was a well rounded intro to ZFS.

Yes, there's definitely some marketing going on there. When I read, "Easy configuration and management with Proxmox VE GUI and CLI." ... Well I know a tech didn't write that.

But really, for an initial intro to ZFS, that page is pretty darn complete.
Other than the fact that (as an intro doc) it skips over a bunch of details, what could you possibly object to there?
Honestly, I was surprised at all the various considerations they _did_ address.

I will take a look at the OpenZFS link, but I would not drop that for a person looking for an overview.
(Edit ... OMG DO NOT LOOK AT THAT PAGE. IT WILL EAT WEEKS OF YOUR TIME!!!)

And the crusty oldies? Nah, that's not gonna help.
Heheh. Ya, we see that very differently. :]
 
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Heh. I just scanned through that wiki link before I posted it. I felt it was a well rounded intro to ZFS.

Yes, there's definitely some marketing going on there. When I read, "Easy configuration and management with Proxmox VE GUI and CLI." ... Well I know a tech didn't write that.

There's factual errors (calling ZFS stripe/mirror configurations as RAID0 and 1), there and more like wishful thinking features (self-healing, etc. - the filesystem absolutely can go irrecoverable), even features advertised which PVE did not go on to support (e.g. ZFS encryption). But I take it with a pinch of salt, it was obviously written long ago.

But really, for an initial intro to ZFS, that page is pretty darn complete.

The valuable part for PVE user is probably the bootloader part.

Other than the fact that (as an intro doc) it skips over a bunch of details, what could you possibly object to there?

If someone comes from actual Linux, they do not even get the idea that ZFS is whole another animal, e.g. cannot rely on /etc/fstab, concepts of datasets, quotas, reservations, refreservations, snapshots, send/receive, etc.

I prefer to draw my information from authoritative sources, i.e. in this case OpenZFS.

Honestly, I was surprised at all the various considerations they _did_ address.

They made it their favourite only choice, so they had to touch on everything a bit, to make it sounds like a wonder filesystem. If you come from a traditional filesystem, you get all the buzzwords, but no concepts.

I will take a look at the OpenZFS link, but I would not drop that for a person looking for an overview.
And the crusty oldies? Nah, that's not gonna help.

Listen to e.g. one talk of Bill Moore from a decade (or more) ago and you are much better equipped to start using that filesystem. You can pick up on e.g. DRAID easily, but if you do not even understand how even free space is reported, good luck with first troubleshooting awaiting you.

Heheh. Ya, we see that very differently. :]

Also completely missing are the list of all the known ZFS bugs, meanwhile Proxmox is very happy to refer to bugtrackers when it comes to e.g. not supporting other options. I pity everyone who starts with this guide as their main ZFS intro, they will come back asking here later, from someone who listened to the old farts. :D
 
My friend, if that https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/ZFS_on_Linux needs updates, well we can probably do something about that.
We certainly have the vendor's ear here. We could file a bug report! Hell, I'll do it. My first one.
And its a wiki. You know, as in its meant to be updated.

I'd recommend that it be accurate about encryption. And fix any other factual errors that can be verified.
Perhaps a blurb about the fact that ZFS is a ghost filesystem with a link to longer resources. Don't try too hard to explain it in the overview.
Mostly, I like it the way it is. If you want to know more about any of the subjects covered there, go look em up. So maybe a link to more info.

And let the Marketing team put a new header on it, post it to the front page with a news release about "Enhanced ZFS Support" along with a donation to the OpenZFS foundation. :P Put some money behind it.
 
We certainly have the vendor's ear here. We could file a bug report! Hell, I'll do it. My first one.
And its a wiki. You know, as in its meant to be updated.

They don't have time for this, I have 20 BZ entries pending with actual bugs since long. :D

And let the Marketing team put a new header on it, post it to the front page with a news release about "Enhanced ZFS Support" along with a donation to the OpenZFS foundation. :p Put some money behind it.

If you watch the developer's mailing list, it basically boils down a handful of people, this is not Broadcom we are talking here. :)

I mean, I like to voice my opinions, I can even bring a horse to water, but can I make it drink? Nope. :)
 

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