ProxMox on RISC-V Questions
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SiFive entered the chat... https://www.cnx-software.com/2020/1...nmatched-mini-itx-motherboard-for-risc-v-pcs/
That board is still behind, but we are watching the development there.
Gotta love new hardware options! I'd still rather see the current exceptional proliferation of features being released on a select few architectures rather than fewer features with a wider selection of architectures. One day ARM and RISC V will get there, as long as there are occasional feasibility tests to probe into and prepare for a possible explosion of available hardware I don't currently see the need to expand into any new architectures yet.
FWIW, the KVM support for RISC-V has be lined up for inclusion in the Linux Kernel, but as the respective ISA specification is only being ratified at the end of year and currently no HW exists that provides (draft) support yet.
I hope that SiFive and other companies in the space continue to bring on such steady and good development progress, because if we may see some performant and actually capable and (more) open HW options in only a few years (famous last words).
Until then, I fully agree with:
I hope that SiFive and other companies in the space continue to bring on such steady and good development progress, because if we may see some performant and actually capable and (more) open HW options in only a few years (famous last words).
Until then, I fully agree with:
Totally agree but also good to know that of course you are watching development!
It would be amazing if PM found itself in a position to also support PPC in future, as it too is making a small comeback
Oh yeah hey I was just reading about that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_POWER_microprocessors
And Power10 came out this year. 30 cores, 120MB L3 still, 4GHz still, so I'm not sure what to expect from the performance, compared to the Power9 of 2017 but it is half the die size (7nm vs 14nm).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_POWER_microprocessors
Yeh it's pretty awesome. The other thing happening is the power-pc notebook. Very cool stuff, I think they are up to prototype stage last I checked.
I mean half the die size represents so much more than space saving... ppl never think about this for edge tech, but somewhere it means something to someone to put that kind of resource into the ISA and that is super exciting.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1693...080-for-frictionless-hybrid-cloud-experiences
"20% single thread improvement, +30% per core improvement"
Hah I'd like to see Intel do that. Supporting PCIe Gen 5, seems a bit ahead of the curve compared to our current selection of CPUs. The next criteria will be: Is it prolific? Is it being adopted? Can Quanta or Gooxi make servers with it reliably? (We all know HP and Dell probably won't change their primary lineups, hell they're both multiple AMD EPYC generations behind!).
If anyone has any unique foresight on when these types of CPUs might become more available or common-place in the enterprise, that would be excellent. @MedicineMan thanks for sharing the notebook, I'll take a look now.
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Looks like mid 2022 has the first interesting server solution coming out which makes running Proxmox on Risc V an interesting option:
https://www.eetimes.com/sifive-unveils-64-bit-risc-v-server-core/
https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/02/sifive_p650_launch
https://www.eetimes.com/sifive-unveils-64-bit-risc-v-server-core/
https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/02/sifive_p650_launch
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Looks definitively interesting, thanks for sharing. I'm glad that they went for the Hypervisor extension even if it's still a draft, well ratified draft.
Hopefully we get also some sensible motherboard, I mean the one PCIe x16 and M.2 slot of the HiFive Unmatched were better than most such non-x86 boards, but not too useful for more advanced usage.
Hopefully we get also some sensible motherboard, I mean the one PCIe x16 and M.2 slot of the HiFive Unmatched were better than most such non-x86 boards, but not too useful for more advanced usage.
Do you have any positive feeback on the MB described above?
https://www.crowdsupply.com/milkv/milk-v-pioneer#products seems to be now a good option
Regards,
https://www.crowdsupply.com/milkv/milk-v-pioneer#products seems to be now a good option
Regards,
@dietmar, it is available now Can be a really nice start of 2024!
Maybe the Proxmox team/company can order some of these complete RISC V systems running Debian out of the box. With their spec looking really nice for a Proxmox VE system.
They ship on Jan 5th, guess arrive a week or max 2 later in Austria.
If all the components are already laying around, just get the main board for $1499 and plug in all the peripherals you like.
https://www.crowdsupply.com/milk-v/milk-v-pioneer
Can be a really nice start of 2024!Maybe the Proxmox team/company can order some of these complete RISC V systems running Debian out of the box. With their spec looking really nice for a Proxmox VE system.
They ship on Jan 5th, guess arrive a week or max 2 later in Austria.
If all the components are already laying around, just get the main board for $1499 and plug in all the peripherals you like.
https://www.crowdsupply.com/milk-v/milk-v-pioneer
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@dietmar Would love to see promox for RISC-V as well, some more powerful boards are coming out this year (like the Milk-V Pioneer with 64 cores, or the Milk-V Oasis with 16 cores) and it would be lovely to mess around with RISC-V development on more native hardware through LXC / KVM
Debian and Ubuntu have supported it for a few years now, it's definitely getting a lot more mature and I think now might be the time to start looking into it.
Debian and Ubuntu have supported it for a few years now, it's definitely getting a lot more mature and I think now might be the time to start looking into it.
There is an unofficial RISC-V port of PVE. Here is a tutorial to install it:
https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/proxmox-on-risc-v.144392/
There are also ports for these architectures: Arm64, Riscv64, and Loongarch64.
https://github.com/jiangcuo/Proxmox-Port
https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/proxmox-on-risc-v.144392/
There are also ports for these architectures: Arm64, Riscv64, and Loongarch64.
https://github.com/jiangcuo/Proxmox-Port
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