[SOLVED] Overly high SSD failure rate?

[iAmWarren]

Hello! First time posting here, I had a question.

I purchased 4x 1TB Patriot P220 SSDs to use for virtual machines, not for performance but hoping for higher life expectancy. Unfortunately I've had 3 out of the 4 SSDs fail within a year of owning them whereas my hard drive array of several years has had no hiccups. I've begun reverting everything back to HDDs and I was wondering if this could be a configuration error or issue with the SSDs I received.

I've attached images of the latest SSD failure, the other SSDs no longer even get recognized.

Let me know if there's any other information I can provide that is helpful

Edit: Most definitely an issue with the SSDs - My fault for thinking I could cheap out on some dram-less patriot drives

 

[louie1961]

SMART report on that drive looks fine. I have seen these kind of error result from faulty SATA cables. Try replacing your sata cables before you ditch the drives. You may have to wipe the offending drives and start fresh, but that's no big deal.

 

[Retro1982]

And have an eye on the temperature of the drives, what I remember most of the enterprise SSDs have a trip temperature about 70-75 degrees, after that the controller of the ssd may shut down or do some other things to protect itself. From the smart values the drives have 55 degrees and if that is the idle temperature you may reach the 70 degrees within seconds without proper cooling … my 5 cents

 

[Retro1982]

Ok no enterprise ssd, but the temperature range from the specs are 0-70 . So idling at 55 may indicate a cooling problem. Since temperature may rise fast in operation.

 

[iAmWarren]

Totally possible given how old the cables I am using are. I'll try swapping out the affected SSDs cable with another and purchase some replacements in the meantime

SMART report on that drive looks fine. I have seen these kind of error result from faulty SATA cables. Try replacing your sata cables before you ditch the drives. You may have to wipe the offending drives and start fresh, but that's no big deal.

Also totally possible. There is a fair amount of active cooling but I do see the temps around 50. I'll run a smart test on the sus SSD after replacing the cable and check if it either gets hot, or fails again.

Ok no enterprise ssd, but the temperature range from the specs are 0-70 . So idling at 55 may indicate a cooling problem. Since temperature may rise fast in operation.

 

[abader]

sorry to say - but just forget this ssd drives in a Proxmox Host. They are DRAM-Less (no Dram Info in the specs) and I guess low budget Chips.

just solve your Problems with buying some use Datacenter SSDs (Samsung PM or SM Series, Intel 45xx or 46xx Series, etc) and enjoy the Performance, Stability und Silence

 

[iAmWarren]

So I switched the SATA cable out and unfortunately the same issue still arrises. It appears to be in some weird locked up state as Proxmox refuses to boot while the SSD is attached.

I agree wholeheartedly. I was not aware of how much of an issue this would be given I only needed 3 low performance VMs on these SSDs. I was thinking about picking up Micron 7450 800GB SSDs.

sorry to say - but just forget this ssd drives in a Proxmox Host. They are DRAM-Less (no Dram Info in the specs) and I guess low budget Chips.

just solve your Problems with buying some use Datacenter SSDs (Samsung PM or SM Series, Intel 45xx or 46xx Series, etc) and enjoy the Performance, Stability und Silence

 

[abader]

as long as I know, micron 7450 are nvme u.3 ssd - your system support this interface?

for private (or also small - medium Business use cases) sata SSDs are just in 2025 a good choice. in spring 25 I picket some Samsung SM863 with running 5 years in a Datacenter and is still at 99% available spare ssd-cells.

you can find these on Ebay or other refurbishes Dealers for around 150$

 

[iAmWarren]

They appear to have a few different formats, one of them being m.2

The SM863 sounds pretty tempting, I'll probably head in that direction as it's about half the price or less.

 

[iAmWarren]

I'll assume this is a durability issue with the SSDs and not an issue with Proxmox configuration. I've sent an email to Patriot, and I'll purchase a pair of the SM863 2TB.

Thanks for the help