edit: to put it simple
Which one (see title) is better and more stable for a workstation usage (I swithch many VMs)???
Time to change...
Currently I'm having my old AMD FX9590 w 990FXA board,obviously no ECC, fine IMMO grouping etc... by the way none of VMs are booting after new year holydays and host just rebooting, any suggestions? If I´m not running VMs host is running. Not from comand line not from webinterface none of them (((
So Í'm in front of a new build, while even my past dreambuild (2 x Intel E5-2670 / Asrock EP2C602) became obsolete in front of a new AMD Ryzen 9 and Thredreapper LOL, so I'm forced by time to go for the latter as my primary usage is VIRTUALIZED WORKSTATION w GPU PASSTHROUGH!
Looking forward for Ryzen 9, 3900 and latter (in 4-6 months) upgrade to 3950, also willing to try make it well balanced between moneysaving (for future Thredreapper update by the end of the year) and hassle free system (remember my ex-dream above LOL)
So ECC no question asked! The question is MOBO, so my primary candidates are
1. ASUS PRIME x470 PRO
looks well, many positive feedback in past, but sometime appears questions on forums/reddit similar to my current system... I can update to 3950x cpu supposedly fine (obviously - no OC in PVE world) and I'm fine for now w 64GB RAM (32 GB ECC UDIMM modules seems impossible to find in EU anyways), 3 video slots and 2 m2 suits me perfectly for now! On top of all I can buy it second hand for 2-3x times cheaper compared to other competitors in the list below! But is it stable enoght? Is it supported well?
2. ASRock Rack X470D4U AMD AM4
seems like a pro, way closer to my ex-dream, LOL dual-lan + Out of the band KVM Nic (if I can use it for remote strat-stop and does it helps me access PVE host from another locatons? does it has embeded videocard-so it can be streamed like w KVM/LAN dodngle?) etc, but more expensive, have some unclear RAM situation (timings have to be adjusted manually, unknown compatibility w ECC/multibit), also it has only 2 full videocard slots and I better NEED 3 VIDEOCARDS! MAY 3rd SHORT SLOT BE USED FOR a 3rd VIDEOCARD W A PCI RISER? OR MAY BE EMBEDED VGA CAN BE USED FOR CONTROLLING HOST? - both will be fine in my case! Anyway after reading about this MOBO I have posititve feeling but more questions arise... especially on ECC RAM Speed/compatibility w AMD Ryzen 9 9300x & 9350x... Seems to be a popular model in Germany and in PVE community. Also it is mATX and less heat! (some ppl controversary nagging on hot VRMs/wattage)
3. ASUS PRO WS X570-ACE
looks like another less hussle alternative, but is it really comparable to real server MOBO? Is it solid workstation-server? I never seen anyone refere to working KVM-remote start-stop etc... they mention "asus control center" and "server deployments, including VMWare" but does it help somehow us - PVE users? I'm a bit sceptical tbh. The rest seems amazing but not that much yet to consider 3x overpay compared to candidate #1 and 1.5x compared to #2
3 full videocard slots at 8x is yammy but again - no 32GB ECC UDIMMs available yet!
Anyway - my main question is how well-solid PVE will work on those three plzzzzzz?
I really want a satbility gain compared to my gygabyte 990FXA, similar to mentioned Asrock EP2C602, but 3x video cards are critical for me!
YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE I APRICIATE!
CHEERS!!!
t
Which one (see title) is better and more stable for a workstation usage (I swithch many VMs)???
Time to change...
Currently I'm having my old AMD FX9590 w 990FXA board,obviously no ECC, fine IMMO grouping etc... by the way none of VMs are booting after new year holydays and host just rebooting, any suggestions? If I´m not running VMs host is running. Not from comand line not from webinterface none of them (((
So Í'm in front of a new build, while even my past dreambuild (2 x Intel E5-2670 / Asrock EP2C602) became obsolete in front of a new AMD Ryzen 9 and Thredreapper LOL, so I'm forced by time to go for the latter as my primary usage is VIRTUALIZED WORKSTATION w GPU PASSTHROUGH!
Looking forward for Ryzen 9, 3900 and latter (in 4-6 months) upgrade to 3950, also willing to try make it well balanced between moneysaving (for future Thredreapper update by the end of the year) and hassle free system (remember my ex-dream above LOL)
So ECC no question asked! The question is MOBO, so my primary candidates are
1. ASUS PRIME x470 PRO
looks well, many positive feedback in past, but sometime appears questions on forums/reddit similar to my current system... I can update to 3950x cpu supposedly fine (obviously - no OC in PVE world) and I'm fine for now w 64GB RAM (32 GB ECC UDIMM modules seems impossible to find in EU anyways), 3 video slots and 2 m2 suits me perfectly for now! On top of all I can buy it second hand for 2-3x times cheaper compared to other competitors in the list below! But is it stable enoght? Is it supported well?
2. ASRock Rack X470D4U AMD AM4
seems like a pro, way closer to my ex-dream, LOL dual-lan + Out of the band KVM Nic (if I can use it for remote strat-stop and does it helps me access PVE host from another locatons? does it has embeded videocard-so it can be streamed like w KVM/LAN dodngle?) etc, but more expensive, have some unclear RAM situation (timings have to be adjusted manually, unknown compatibility w ECC/multibit), also it has only 2 full videocard slots and I better NEED 3 VIDEOCARDS! MAY 3rd SHORT SLOT BE USED FOR a 3rd VIDEOCARD W A PCI RISER? OR MAY BE EMBEDED VGA CAN BE USED FOR CONTROLLING HOST? - both will be fine in my case! Anyway after reading about this MOBO I have posititve feeling but more questions arise... especially on ECC RAM Speed/compatibility w AMD Ryzen 9 9300x & 9350x... Seems to be a popular model in Germany and in PVE community. Also it is mATX and less heat! (some ppl controversary nagging on hot VRMs/wattage)
3. ASUS PRO WS X570-ACE
looks like another less hussle alternative, but is it really comparable to real server MOBO? Is it solid workstation-server? I never seen anyone refere to working KVM-remote start-stop etc... they mention "asus control center" and "server deployments, including VMWare" but does it help somehow us - PVE users? I'm a bit sceptical tbh. The rest seems amazing but not that much yet to consider 3x overpay compared to candidate #1 and 1.5x compared to #2
3 full videocard slots at 8x is yammy but again - no 32GB ECC UDIMMs available yet!Anyway - my main question is how well-solid PVE will work on those three plzzzzzz?
I really want a satbility gain compared to my gygabyte 990FXA, similar to mentioned Asrock EP2C602, but 3x video cards are critical for me!
YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE I APRICIATE!
CHEERS!!!
t
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