Initial install configuration advice

NigelA

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Hi,

I've just been laid off as the company I worked for is closing permanently (thanks COVID) and as part settlement of some outstanding business expenses I've come home with some kit from the office, among which is a Dell R730XD server that I thought might make a nice home project to virtualise some of the home servers and other stuff I already have and to properly segregate IoT and things like that.

In a past life I'd have just merrily installed ESXi as it was free for this socket arrangement and there's a Dell customised version to download but I thought I'd look at other options, as it's not a business based decision this time around. I'd remembered looking at Proxmox ( and XCP/XCP-ng) a few years ago but we always ended up in the relative safety of VMware Inc but I'm determined to open my horizons this time as the flexibility appeals greatly. Despite reading and watching a myriad of videos and documents I confess to being a little lost as to how to configure the server post-install.

The server itself has 28 disks in total, handled by a PERC730P raid controller. The first 2 of which are SSD's currently set up as a RAID-1 mirror with a first stab at a Proxmox install on. The rest of the disks are identical 1.2Tb SAS drives. There seems to be lots of talk of using ZFS but having barely got to grasp with EXT4, I'd prefer to stick with something I know before throwing myself at the mercy of apparently flashing RAID controllers and using an entirely new file systems so I think I'd rather stick with good old fashioned hardware RAID. Normally, I'd just create a few virtual disks (RAID-1/5/10) depending on what they were going to be used for but I'm not clear if that's the right approach here.

Primarily, I'll likely be creating standalone virtual machines, maybe half a dozen or so. But I'd also like to have a play around with the built-in containerisation as I've never really done anything with it. From what I gather, ISO and LXC templates apparently need to be stored on a different disk(s) to VM's and/or containers? Should I be looking at doing something like a RAID1 virtual disk for the Proxmox hypervisor, a RAID1 virtual disk for the ISO's, a RAiD1 virtual disk for the templates, a RAID-10 virtual disk for the VM's and a separate RAiD-10 virtual disk for the containers? Or is that wrong, should I be sticking everything except Proxmox itself in a giant RAID-10 virtual disk. Or some combination of both? Help!

I'll undoubtedly run head long into similar problems when it comes to trying to implement teamed NIC's and VLAN's but I'll save that delight for another day.

Thanks for your patience.

Nigel
 
hi,

great that you're trying proxmox!

firstly i suggest you to check out or documentation[0] and wiki[1], it is quite helpful and can help you understand some things and help with common configuration tasks.

From what I gather, ISO and LXC templates apparently need to be stored on a different disk(s) to VM's and/or containers?
no, a disk/storage can contain all of that. in the GUI, you can set the types of data to allow on a specific storage, and these can be activated (depending on type of storage). for more info about this, check here[2]

Or is that wrong, should I be sticking everything except Proxmox itself in a giant RAID-10 virtual disk. Or some combination of both? Help!

there is really no right and wrong. that all depends on how you want to use it. i'd stick with more than one storage option in any case (so you can have for example snapshots)

i hope this helps!

[0]: https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/
[1]: https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Main_Page
[2]: https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Storage
 
Thanks Oguz. I made some decent progress in the end last night and actually watched an official video by one of your colleagues that made much more sense than some of the other bits and pieces I'd read/watched, where people were using their own knowledge/experience/preferences. First few VM's up and running without problem and barely registering on the server.

What I have realised is what a power hungry beast this Dell is so it's unlikely to cut it as a 24/7 machine for use here at home. Not unless I start hiding the power bills from my wife anyway. I've got a different server to collect, once they've finished with migrating it, which might be slightly more power friendly.

On to trying to make heads or tails of VLAN's and this HPE layer 3 switch now.....
 
glad to be of help to you!

good luck with your project
 
I know before throwing myself at the mercy of apparently flashing RAID controllers


Hi,

730p is a very gooooood controller. It can be used in HBA mode, so you do not need to re-flashing. Also I can say that the performance and compatibility with zfs is very good(I do not see any problems yes with Proxmox or with zfs)

Good luck / Bafta
 

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