GC very slow after 3.4 update

rauth · May 13, 2025

Hi,

As reported in Proxmox Backup Server 3.4 release forum, I am facing extreme slowness in GC task after upgrade: Here

proxmox-backup-manager version --verbose

Code:

proxmox-backup                     3.4.0         running kernel: 6.8.12-9-pve
proxmox-backup-server              3.4.1-1       running version: 3.4.1
proxmox-kernel-helper              8.1.1
pve-kernel-6.2                     8.0.5
proxmox-kernel-6.8                 6.8.12-10
proxmox-kernel-6.8.12-9-pve-signed 6.8.12-9
proxmox-kernel-6.8.4-3-pve-signed  6.8.4-3
proxmox-kernel-6.2.16-20-pve       6.2.16-20
proxmox-kernel-6.2                 6.2.16-20
pve-kernel-6.2.16-3-pve            6.2.16-3
ifupdown2                          3.2.0-1+pmx11
libjs-extjs                        7.0.0-5
proxmox-backup-docs                3.4.1-1
proxmox-backup-client              3.4.1-1
proxmox-mail-forward               0.3.2
proxmox-mini-journalreader         1.4.0
proxmox-offline-mirror-helper      unknown
proxmox-widget-toolkit             4.3.10
pve-xtermjs                        5.5.0-2
smartmontools                      7.3-pve1
zfsutils-linux                     2.2.7-pve2

cat /etc/proxmox-backup/prune.cfg

Code:

datastore: pbs01
        gc-schedule sat 05:00
        notification-mode notification-system
        path /mnt/datastore/pbs01
        tuning gc-atime-safety-check=1

I don't have any pruning tasks configured on the PBS side, but rather it is configured in each job on the proxmox side, I have different retentions for each VM. There are currently 384 Groups and 2138 Snapshots, approximately 1.8TiB of backups are inserted every day

Chris · May 15, 2025

Hi,
thanks for sharing the outputs.
First off, from the output you showed in the other thread one can see that there are missing chunks in your datastore

2025-05-12T13:39:01-03:00: warning: unable to access non-existent chunk 780f82546e91812e1b1c04815c2afbf73ad963bc99650502b8c2b379093e3407, required by "/mnt/datastore/pbs002/ns/cloudkvm02/vm/20510/2025-05-12T00:55:08Z/drive-scsi0.img.fidx"<br>2025-05-12T13:39:01-03:00: warning: unable to access non-existent chunk 6a8c3eea53c7a6f96418f0b48f7c47ac342497836d3c3c9b6fe6a5d7826ed353, required by "/mnt/datastore/pbs002/ns/cloudkvm02/vm/20510/2025-05-12T00:55:08Z/drive-scsi0.img.fidx"

So it is strongly recommended to run a verification job, which however may take some time in your case.

Regarding the other log lines:

2025-05-13T01:29:04-03:00: Encountered new index file '"/mnt/datastore/pbs/ns/stor01/vm/20288/2025-05-12T06:00:02Z/drive-scsi0.img.fidx"', increment total index file count<br>2025-05-13T01:37:01-03:00: Encountered new index file '"/mnt/datastore/pbs/ns/stor01/vm/20266/2025-05-12T02:26:25Z/drive-scsi0.img.fidx"', increment total index file count<br>2025-05-13T01:37:46-03:00: Encountered new index file '"/mnt/datastore/pbs/ns/stor01/vm/20266/2025-05-11T02:11:07Z/drive-scsi0.img.fidx"', increment total index file count<br>

These indicate that new backup snapshots where created while the GC was ongoing. Can you please share the retention settings for VMID 20288 and VMID 20266 as well as the VM config, qm config <VMID>?

Also, did you already try to increase the gc-cache-capacity in the datastore tuning options to the maximum value of 8388608 as suggested? Does this have a significant runtime? See https://pbs.proxmox.com/docs/storage.html#tuning

rauth · May 15, 2025

Hi @Chris

This message:

Code:

2025-05-12T13:39:01-03:00: warning: unable to access non-existent chunk 780f82546e91812e1b1c04815c2afbf73ad963bc99650502b8c2b379093e3407, required by "/mnt/datastore/pbs002/ns/cloudkvm02/vm/20510/2025-05-12T00:55:08Z/drive-scsi0.img.fidx"<br>2025-05-12T13:39:01-03:00: warning: unable to access non-existent chunk 6a8c3eea53c7a6f96418f0b48f7c47ac342497836d3c3c9b6fe6a5d7826ed353, required by "/mnt/datastore/pbs002/ns/cloudkvm02/vm/20510/2025-05-12T00:55:08Z/drive-scsi0.img.fidx"

It has happened in the past, before doing the update and it was not resolved by performing the verification process, I was only able to resolve it by deleting the entire VM backup, running the GC, and creating the backup again. Does this happen when a VM deletes an old backup due to retention when the GC is running? Because I noticed that this error only occurred in VMs that had short retention, Ex; 1 day

The other log 2025-05-13T01:29:04-03:00: Encountered new index file...I understood that it is a new snapshot found. These VMs have 7 days retention

qm config 20288:

Code:

agent: 1,freeze-fs-on-backup=0
boot: order=scsi0;ide2
cicustom: user=snippets:snippets/userconfig-1959.yaml
ciuser: root
cores: 4
cpu: Haswell-noTSX
ide2: none,media=cdrom
kvm: 1
memory: 8192
meta: creation-qemu=7.0.0,ctime=1674153325
name: example
net0: virtio=BC:24:11:31:EF:A2,bridge=vmbr0,firewall=1,rate=125,tag=158
numa: 0
ostype: l26
scsi0: stor01-vms:vm-20288-disk-0,cache=none,discard=on,format=raw,iops_rd=2000,iops_wr=1000,mbps_rd=300,mbps_wr=200,size=100G,ssd=1
scsi1: stor01-vms:vm-20288-cloudinit,media=cdrom
scsihw: virtio-scsi-pci
searchdomain: aja.to
serial0: socket
smbios1: uuid=a4936b2a-b4b8-42e9-b34e-2e6601876dbc
sockets: 1
vga: std
vmgenid: df26226a-ec54-45fe-8471-c03276efcf0a

qm config 20266

Code:

agent: 1
boot: order=scsi0;ide2
cicustom: user=snippets:snippets/userconfig-1749.yaml
ciuser: root
cores: 2
cpu: Haswell-noTSX
ide0: stor01-vms:vm-20266-cloudinit,media=cdrom
ide2: none,media=cdrom
ipconfig1: ip=dhcp
kvm: 1
memory: 4096
meta: creation-qemu=6.1.0,ctime=1649178087
name: example2
net0: virtio=BC:24:11:7A:DC:0E,bridge=vmbr0,firewall=1,rate=12.5,tag=158
net1: virtio=BC:24:11:C5:32:0F,bridge=vmbr0,mtu=1,rate=125,tag=2017
numa: 0
onboot: 1
ostype: l26
scsi0: stor01-vms:vm-20266-disk-0,cache=none,discard=on,format=raw,iops_rd=2000,iops_wr=1000,mbps_rd=300,mbps_wr=200,size=50G,ssd=1
scsihw: virtio-scsi-pci
searchdomain: aja.to
serial0: socket
smbios1: uuid=d23232fa-c67b-45c1-b543-450f422fd71d
sockets: 1
vga: std
vmgenid: 8bc4b649-92e0-4d96-a4b3-a2663c98544b

I also made the adjustment gc-cache-capacity to 8388608 and I restarted the GC, it's been running for 18 hours and is at 35%. I can't say if it had a positive result, for me it's taking the same time as before. Can you explain the reason for the value 8388608? is it bytes? What does it really mean? Because I didn't find anything about it in the documentation https://pbs.proxmox.com/docs/storage.html#tuning

Chris · May 15, 2025

rauth said:
Does this happen when a VM deletes an old backup due to retention when the GC is running? Because I noticed that this error only occurred in VMs that had short retention, Ex; 1 day

Yes, this is the edge case which I was talking about here [0]. For such conditions, long running garbage collection tasks with short retention settings, the GC could previously ignore some chunks, not correctly marking them as in use. This issue has been fixed with [1].
This however means that your garbage collection runtime was shorter before also because some files and chunks have been ignored, which are now included in the GC phase 1.

Can you please post the summary part of the GC run after the update, so one can compare the values given there. Maybe that gives a some more insights. For the previous run you showed

Code:

2025-05-05T11:42:49-03:00: processed 99% (24772420 chunks)
2025-05-05T11:59:49-03:00: Removed garbage: 9.458 TiB
2025-05-05T11:59:49-03:00: Removed chunks: 6149718
2025-05-05T11:59:49-03:00: Pending removals: 2.049 GiB (in 1970 chunks)
2025-05-05T11:59:49-03:00: Original data usage: 542.491 TiB
2025-05-05T11:59:49-03:00: On-Disk usage: 36.812 TiB (6.79%)
2025-05-05T11:59:49-03:00: On-Disk chunks: 18875319
2025-05-05T11:59:49-03:00: Deduplication factor: 14.74
2025-05-05T11:59:49-03:00: Average chunk size: 2.045 MiB

rauth said:
Because I noticed that this error only occurred in VMs that had short retention, Ex; 1 day

How big is the combined size of all of the VMs with a retention setting of less than a day? How much new data is approx written by the backp jobs for these VMs?

rauth said:
Can you explain the reason for the value 8388608? is it bytes? What does it really mean?

The value is the available cache slots to store the digest for the cache to avoid duplicate atime updates, the max. value is obtained as 8*1024*1024, with a default of 1024*1024, which was choosen as trade off between runtime improvements and memory usage, see also [2].

[0] https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/proxmox-backup-server-3-4-released.164869/post-770753
[1] https://git.proxmox.com/?p=proxmox-backup.git;a=commit;h=cb9814e33112f2e4847083a1b742e3126952064b
[2] https://lore.proxmox.com/pbs-devel/20250404130713.376630-1-c.ebner@proxmox.com/

rauth · May 15, 2025

This however means that your garbage collection runtime was shorter before also because some files and chunks have been ignored, which are now included in the GC phase 1.

So this update did not bring the improvement in GC execution speed as announced, but rather a fix for the mentioned bug? This is good, but in my environment with HDD storage it brought more slowness

I know that SSD storage would be much better, but it is completely financially unfeasible due to the amount of TiB stored. What I do here is split the backups into more PBS with ZFS and special device on SSD NVME. I won't even update the others for now, until I trust this version 3.4 more. This GC task is really very heavy, it is hard because during the backup execution some reach timeout, due to competition with the GC and the backup fails.

How big is the combined size of all of the VMs with a retention setting of less than a day? How much new data is approx written by the backp jobs for these VMs?

These VMs had around 1TiB and 100GiB of data transferred in the backup

Can you please post the summary part of the GC run after the update, so one can compare the values given there. Maybe that gives a some more insights. For the previous run you showed

When I finish the task I will send the result here, at the moment it has been 22 hours and it is at 41% of phase 1

Chris · May 16, 2025

rauth said:
So this update did not bring the improvement in GC execution speed as announced, but rather a fix for the mentioned bug? This is good, but in my environment with HDD storage it brought more slowness

But both is the case, there was the improvements to reduce the number of multiple atime updates on already seen chunks (as keep track by the cache) and the change in iteration logic to better correlate index files, as well as the bugfix for the possibly untouched chunks. Why this has negative effects with your particular setup remains to be clarified, until now the possible cause is only hypothesis.

rauth said:
I know that SSD storage would be much better, but it is completely financially unfeasible due to the amount of TiB stored. What I do here is split the backups into more PBS with ZFS and special device on SSD NVME. I won't even update the others for now, until I trust this version 3.4 more. This GC task is really very heavy, it is hard because during the backup execution some reach timeout, due to competition with the GC and the backup fails.

Yes, since the garbage collection is I/O heavy with respect to metadata access, the recommended special device will help a lot with GC performance.

rauth said:
These VMs had around 1TiB and 100GiB of data transferred in the backup

Given these values, the additionally touched chunks as compared to GC task log previous to the upgrade you showed seem not to be solely responsible for the increased GC runtime. Which was the previously running version? Was there any changes to the underlying storage? Did your backup volume change significantly before and after the upgrade, e.g. did you also perform a lot of upgrades on the VMs, were there changes in retention settings, backup frequency, ecc.?

rauth said:
When I finish the task I will send the result here, at the moment it has been 22 hours and it is at 41% of phase 1

Please try to post the full task log or at least the summary of all the GC jobs after the upgrade, and also further task logs from before the upgrade (maybe the last 5) as well.

rauth · Monday at 20:10

I had to go back to version 3.3 of Proxmox Backup Server, as the new version was really unsustainable in my environment. Note that I only reinstalled PBS keeping the same ZFS storage, the GC is back to the way it was. In version 3.4 the first phase ran for 3 days and didn't go beyond 81%, that's when I decided to go back to the previous version because as it's a production environment, I was running out of space. With version 3.3 the first phase ran in 8 hours! That's an absurd difference.

rauth · Monday at 20:29

This is the summary of the GC execution in version 3.3. Unfortunately in 3.4 I was unable to finish it

Code:

2025-05-19T02:31:07-03:00: Removed garbage: 8.658 TiB
2025-05-19T02:31:07-03:00: Removed chunks: 7140958
2025-05-19T02:31:07-03:00: Pending removals: 1.116 GiB (in 1176 chunks)
2025-05-19T02:31:07-03:00: Original data usage: 721.212 TiB
2025-05-19T02:31:07-03:00: On-Disk usage: 34.436 TiB (4.77%)
2025-05-19T02:31:07-03:00: On-Disk chunks: 18045094
2025-05-19T02:31:07-03:00: Deduplication factor: 20.94
2025-05-19T02:31:07-03:00: Average chunk size: 2.001 MiB

Chris · Tuesday at 08:41

rauth said:
Note that I only reinstalled PBS keeping the same ZFS storage, the GC is back to the way it was

Good, that is an important datapoint, as it excludes unrelated changes.

rauth said:
In version 3.4 the first phase ran for 3 days and didn't go beyond 81%, that's when I decided to go back to the previous version because as it's a production environment, I was running out of space. With version 3.3 the first phase ran in 8 hours! That's an absurd difference.

Please append the full task log for the aborted run as well as the full task log for the new run after downgrade to 3.3 for further investigation.

Another thing came to mind: Do you have symlinked parts of your datastore contents?

Chris · Tuesday at 10:58

rauth said:
This is the summary of the GC execution in version 3.3. Unfortunately in 3.4 I was unable to finish it

Just to point this out once again, with PBS version 3.3 and your short retention, you are at risk of cleaning up in use chunks. Finding the root cause of the increased GC runtime with version 3.4 is therefore of importance. Maybe you could perform a GC run with the new version, but do not perform any backups while GC is ongoing, in order to see if the newly created snapshots are causing the increased runtime?

Also, please do post the output of find /path/to/datastore/ type -l.

rauth · Tuesday at 21:28

Chris said:
Good, that is an important datapoint, as it excludes unrelated changes.

Exactly, there was no change in the storage other than the upgrade to version 3.4, and now the rollback to 3.3.

Chris said:
Please append the full task log for the aborted run as well as the full task log for the new run after downgrade to 3.3 for further investigation.

Unfortunately, when reinstalling to version 3.3, I lost the GC execution logs, and I didn't save them. But basically it was at 81% in phase 1, and of course there were backup executions during this period, and there were several logs like: "Encountered new index file..."

This is the log in version 3.3

Code:

2025-05-17T05:00:00-03:00: starting garbage collection on store pbs001
2025-05-17T05:00:00-03:00: task triggered by schedule 'sat 05:00'
2025-05-17T05:00:00-03:00: Start GC phase1 (mark used chunks)
2025-05-17T05:02:34-03:00: marked 1% (28 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:03:16-03:00: marked 2% (55 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:03:47-03:00: marked 3% (82 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:05:05-03:00: marked 4% (109 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:06:20-03:00: marked 5% (136 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:09:33-03:00: marked 6% (163 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:10:49-03:00: marked 7% (190 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:12:02-03:00: marked 8% (217 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:13:52-03:00: marked 9% (244 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:14:59-03:00: marked 10% (271 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:16:05-03:00: marked 11% (298 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:16:48-03:00: marked 12% (325 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:18:08-03:00: marked 13% (352 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:19:51-03:00: marked 14% (379 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:20:16-03:00: marked 15% (406 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:20:49-03:00: marked 16% (433 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:21:37-03:00: marked 17% (460 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:22:06-03:00: marked 18% (487 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:22:55-03:00: marked 19% (514 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:23:45-03:00: marked 20% (541 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:23:56-03:00: marked 21% (569 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:24:09-03:00: marked 22% (596 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:24:55-03:00: marked 23% (623 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:26:24-03:00: marked 24% (650 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:27:39-03:00: marked 25% (677 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:28:37-03:00: marked 26% (704 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:29:09-03:00: marked 27% (731 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:29:49-03:00: marked 28% (758 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:30:38-03:00: marked 29% (785 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:31:08-03:00: marked 30% (812 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:31:37-03:00: marked 31% (839 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:31:57-03:00: marked 32% (866 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:32:18-03:00: marked 33% (893 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:33:03-03:00: marked 34% (920 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:33:27-03:00: marked 35% (947 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:33:48-03:00: marked 36% (974 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:34:11-03:00: marked 37% (1001 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:35:23-03:00: marked 38% (1028 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:36:49-03:00: marked 39% (1055 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:37:03-03:00: marked 40% (1082 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:37:46-03:00: marked 41% (1110 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:39:25-03:00: marked 42% (1137 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:39:45-03:00: marked 43% (1164 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:39:55-03:00: marked 44% (1191 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:40:37-03:00: marked 45% (1218 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:41:25-03:00: marked 46% (1245 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:41:42-03:00: marked 47% (1272 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:42:04-03:00: marked 48% (1299 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:42:22-03:00: marked 49% (1326 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:42:48-03:00: marked 50% (1353 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:43:36-03:00: marked 51% (1380 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:45:18-03:00: marked 52% (1407 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:45:39-03:00: marked 53% (1434 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:47:23-03:00: marked 54% (1461 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:47:57-03:00: marked 55% (1488 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:48:12-03:00: marked 56% (1515 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:49:08-03:00: marked 57% (1542 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:52:45-03:00: marked 58% (1569 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:53:15-03:00: marked 59% (1596 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:55:37-03:00: marked 60% (1623 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:56:48-03:00: marked 61% (1651 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:57:20-03:00: marked 62% (1678 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T05:59:40-03:00: marked 63% (1705 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:03:19-03:00: marked 64% (1732 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:19:02-03:00: marked 65% (1759 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:22:50-03:00: marked 66% (1786 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:26:32-03:00: marked 67% (1813 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:27:08-03:00: marked 68% (1840 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:28:12-03:00: marked 69% (1867 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:29:52-03:00: marked 70% (1894 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:30:42-03:00: marked 71% (1921 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:31:15-03:00: marked 72% (1948 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:35:01-03:00: marked 73% (1975 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:38:33-03:00: marked 74% (2002 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:40:57-03:00: marked 75% (2029 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:42:38-03:00: marked 76% (2056 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:43:43-03:00: marked 77% (2083 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:47:32-03:00: marked 78% (2110 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:49:29-03:00: marked 79% (2137 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:51:31-03:00: marked 80% (2164 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:53:13-03:00: marked 81% (2192 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:55:02-03:00: marked 82% (2219 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:56:55-03:00: marked 83% (2246 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T06:58:54-03:00: marked 84% (2273 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T07:00:56-03:00: marked 85% (2300 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T07:03:02-03:00: marked 86% (2327 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T07:04:36-03:00: marked 87% (2354 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T07:06:01-03:00: marked 88% (2381 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T07:07:28-03:00: marked 89% (2408 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T07:08:40-03:00: marked 90% (2435 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T07:20:55-03:00: marked 91% (2462 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T07:22:43-03:00: marked 92% (2489 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T07:26:59-03:00: marked 93% (2516 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T07:29:46-03:00: marked 94% (2543 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T07:38:08-03:00: marked 95% (2570 of 2705 index files)
2025-05-17T07:49:39-03:00: marked 96% (2597 of 2705 index files)
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2025-05-17T07:58:08-03:00: Start GC phase2 (sweep unused chunks)
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2025-05-19T02:31:07-03:00: Removed chunks: 7140958
2025-05-19T02:31:07-03:00: Pending removals: 1.116 GiB (in 1176 chunks)
2025-05-19T02:31:07-03:00: Original data usage: 721.212 TiB
2025-05-19T02:31:07-03:00: On-Disk usage: 34.436 TiB (4.77%)
2025-05-19T02:31:07-03:00: On-Disk chunks: 18045094
2025-05-19T02:31:07-03:00: Deduplication factor: 20.94
2025-05-19T02:31:07-03:00: Average chunk size: 2.001 MiB
2025-05-19T02:31:07-03:00: TASK WARNINGS: 16282

Chris said:
Another thing came to mind: Do you have symlinked parts of your datastore contents?

Chris said:
Also, please do post the output of find /path/to/datastore/ type -l.

I have no symbolic links in the storage, no files are found with the command find /mnt/datastore/pbs001/ -type l

Chris said:
Just to point this out once again, with PBS version 3.3 and your short retention, you are at risk of cleaning up in use chunks. Finding the root cause of the increased GC runtime with version 3.4 is therefore of importance. Maybe you could perform a GC run with the new version, but do not perform any backups while GC is ongoing, in order to see if the newly created snapshots are causing the increased runtime?

I understand, but I can't stop running backup tasks to run GC, see that GC takes between 1 to 2 days depending on the amount of files to delete. Going this period without doing backup is impractical, since the PBS in question is in production. And it has always been this way, we are already "used to it".

Regarding possible problems with deleting in-use chunks, I increased the backup retention, and this problem no longer occurs.

The problem in version 3.4 for me is the delay in phase 1. Note that the task starts on Saturdays at 5am and takes about 3-4 hours. This scheduling occurs precisely in a period when there are no backups running, so we cannot take into account that in version 3.4 phase 1 takes longer due to new snapshots being created, since in version 3.3, the same GC cron takes less time without running any backups.

Bkts · Wednesday at 09:47

Hey,

we have the same problem after updating to version 3.4 with a very slow phase 1 despite having the maximum number of chunks for cache.
I can create a new thread if needed but wanted to share our experience here.

Here is the last GC run before the update:

Code:

2025-05-19T08:00:00+02:00: starting garbage collection on store pbs-1-zfs
2025-05-19T08:00:00+02:00: task triggered by schedule '08:00'
2025-05-19T08:00:00+02:00: Start GC phase1 (mark used chunks)
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2025-05-19T09:07:20+02:00: Start GC phase2 (sweep unused chunks)
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2025-05-19T09:43:45+02:00: processed 99% (2678593 chunks)
2025-05-19T09:44:23+02:00: Removed garbage: 12.947 GiB
2025-05-19T09:44:23+02:00: Removed chunks: 6119
2025-05-19T09:44:23+02:00: Pending removals: 18.168 GiB (in 8186 chunks)
2025-05-19T09:44:23+02:00: Original data usage: 51.139 TiB
2025-05-19T09:44:23+02:00: On-Disk usage: 4.769 TiB (9.33%)
2025-05-19T09:44:23+02:00: On-Disk chunks: 2691535
2025-05-19T09:44:23+02:00: Deduplication factor: 10.72
2025-05-19T09:44:23+02:00: Average chunk size: 1.858 MiB
2025-05-19T09:44:23+02:00: TASK OK

I will post the run after the update in the next post.

Bkts · Wednesday at 09:47

Here is the run after the update. I started this one manually after increasing the cache capacity.

Code:

2025-05-20T10:17:40+02:00: starting garbage collection on store pbs-1-zfs
2025-05-20T10:17:41+02:00: Access time update check successful, proceeding with GC.
2025-05-20T10:17:41+02:00: Using access time cutoff 1d 5m, minimum access time is 2025-05-19T08:12:40Z
2025-05-20T10:17:41+02:00: Using chunk digest cache capacity of 8388608.
2025-05-20T10:17:41+02:00: Start GC phase1 (mark used chunks)
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2025-05-20T18:16:12+02:00: Encountered new index file '"/mnt/datastore/pbs-1-zfs/ns/pve-5/vm/511/2025-05-20T16:09:39Z/drive-virtio0.img.fidx"', increment total index file count
2025-05-20T18:16:12+02:00: Encountered new index file '"/mnt/datastore/pbs-1-zfs/ns/pve-5/vm/511/2025-05-20T16:09:39Z/drive-efidisk0.img.fidx"', increment total index file count
2025-05-20T18:16:12+02:00: marked 92% (748 of 812 index files)
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2025-05-20T18:17:27+02:00: Encountered new index file '"/mnt/datastore/pbs-1-zfs/ns/pve-5/vm/7025/2025-05-20T16:10:20Z/drive-scsi0.img.fidx"', increment total index file count
2025-05-20T18:17:43+02:00: marked 94% (765 of 813 index files)
2025-05-20T18:17:57+02:00: Encountered new index file '"/mnt/datastore/pbs-1-zfs/ns/pve-5/vm/510/2025-05-20T16:08:05Z/drive-efidisk0.img.fidx"', increment total index file count
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2025-05-20T18:18:28+02:00: marked 95% (775 of 815 index files)
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2025-05-20T18:19:05+02:00: Encountered new index file '"/mnt/datastore/pbs-1-zfs/ns/pve-5/vm/7113/2025-05-20T16:12:35Z/drive-scsi0.img.fidx"', increment total index file count
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2025-05-20T18:19:58+02:00: Start GC phase2 (sweep unused chunks)
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2025-05-20T19:04:21+02:00: processed 96% (2764843 chunks)
2025-05-20T19:05:02+02:00: processed 97% (2793584 chunks)
2025-05-20T19:05:44+02:00: processed 98% (2822376 chunks)
2025-05-20T19:06:24+02:00: processed 99% (2851264 chunks)
2025-05-20T19:07:05+02:00: Removed garbage: 37.555 GiB
2025-05-20T19:07:05+02:00: Removed chunks: 16962
2025-05-20T19:07:05+02:00: Original data usage: 57.09 TiB
2025-05-20T19:07:05+02:00: On-Disk usage: 5.075 TiB (8.89%)
2025-05-20T19:07:05+02:00: On-Disk chunks: 2863296
2025-05-20T19:07:05+02:00: Deduplication factor: 11.25
2025-05-20T19:07:05+02:00: Average chunk size: 1.859 MiB
2025-05-20T19:07:05+02:00: TASK OK

This is quite the difference. As the datastore is not on full capacity yet, the problem will get bigger with time when the datastore gets fuller.

Chris · Wednesday at 10:26

Hi,
thanks for sharing the task logs! That is quite the difference you observe. Please do also provide some more details about the storage, so we can try to reproduce the issue, thanks.

Bkts · Wednesday at 11:11

The PBS is a physical machine with 4x 8TB HDD as a ZFD Raidz1. The current usage is 26%.
We have a namespace for each PVE. The backups all run in the night and early morning, so when the Prune and GC Runs there is no active backup.

If specific informations are needed, im happy to provide them as best as i can.

Chris · Wednesday at 12:05

Could you try to trace the syscalls during garbage collection by running strace -ftt -e %file,$desc -p $(pidof proxmox-backup-proxy) -o /path/to/output.txt, making sure to point the output to a location with enough space, as the file will grow quickly and compress and share this file by some means? This might help investigate.

Also, did you check your memory usage and have a look out for swap usage during the GC run?

Edit: Also, please share the output of zpool get all <poolname> and zfs get all <dataset>

Chris · Wednesday at 12:35

Also, do you observe a different runtime behavior when setting the gc-cache-capacity to 0?

Bkts · Wednesday at 13:50

Here is a 1 hour run of the syscalls command:
https://filebin.net/425zt4tnwzvz6t2r

The memory is at ~10 out of 16GB with 0,43% SWAP usage with the GC actively running in phase 1.

I testet the capacity at 0 with a second PBS (which doesnt have a lot of backups). Here the GC run before the update was ~5 Mins. After the update it is ~25 Mins both with capacity to 0 and a higher value. I can of course test it with the main PBS, but i would do it tomorrow after the current GC is complete.

Code:

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pbs-1-zfs  ashift                         12                             local
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pbs-1-zfs  freeing                        0                              -
pbs-1-zfs  fragmentation                  32%                            -
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pbs-1-zfs  checkpoint                     -                              -
pbs-1-zfs  load_guid                      6004039897533648236            -
pbs-1-zfs  autotrim                       off                            default
pbs-1-zfs  compatibility                  off                            default
pbs-1-zfs  bcloneused                     0                              -
pbs-1-zfs  bclonesaved                    0                              -
pbs-1-zfs  bcloneratio                    1.00x                          -
pbs-1-zfs  feature@async_destroy          enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@empty_bpobj            enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@lz4_compress           active                         local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@multi_vdev_crash_dump  enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@spacemap_histogram     active                         local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@enabled_txg            active                         local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@hole_birth             active                         local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@extensible_dataset     active                         local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@embedded_data          active                         local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@bookmarks              enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@filesystem_limits      enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@large_blocks           enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@large_dnode            enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@sha512                 enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@skein                  enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@edonr                  enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@userobj_accounting     active                         local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@encryption             enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@project_quota          active                         local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@device_removal         enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@obsolete_counts        enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@zpool_checkpoint       enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@spacemap_v2            active                         local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@allocation_classes     enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@resilver_defer         enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@bookmark_v2            enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@redaction_bookmarks    enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@redacted_datasets      enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@bookmark_written       enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@log_spacemap           active                         local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@livelist               enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@device_rebuild         enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@zstd_compress          enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@draid                  enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@zilsaxattr             active                         local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@head_errlog            active                         local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@blake3                 enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@block_cloning          enabled                        local
pbs-1-zfs  feature@vdev_zaps_v2           active                         local

Code:

NAME       PROPERTY              VALUE                     SOURCE
pbs-1-zfs  type                  filesystem                -
pbs-1-zfs  creation              Wed Mar 13 11:18 2024     -
pbs-1-zfs  used                  5.44T                     -
pbs-1-zfs  available             15.3T                     -
pbs-1-zfs  referenced            5.44T                     -
pbs-1-zfs  compressratio         1.02x                     -
pbs-1-zfs  mounted               yes                       -
pbs-1-zfs  quota                 20.7T                     local
pbs-1-zfs  reservation           none                      default
pbs-1-zfs  recordsize            128K                      default
pbs-1-zfs  mountpoint            /mnt/datastore/pbs-1-zfs  local
pbs-1-zfs  sharenfs              off                       default
pbs-1-zfs  checksum              on                        default
pbs-1-zfs  compression           lz4                       local
pbs-1-zfs  atime                 on                        default
pbs-1-zfs  devices               on                        default
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pbs-1-zfs  zoned                 off                       default
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pbs-1-zfs  aclmode               discard                   default
pbs-1-zfs  aclinherit            restricted                default
pbs-1-zfs  createtxg             1                         -
pbs-1-zfs  canmount              on                        default
pbs-1-zfs  xattr                 on                        default
pbs-1-zfs  copies                1                         default
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pbs-1-zfs  sharesmb              off                       default
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pbs-1-zfs  refreservation        none                      default
pbs-1-zfs  guid                  3458168430298756986       -
pbs-1-zfs  primarycache          all                       default
pbs-1-zfs  secondarycache        all                       default
pbs-1-zfs  usedbysnapshots       0B                        -
pbs-1-zfs  usedbydataset         5.44T                     -
pbs-1-zfs  usedbychildren        2.05G                     -
pbs-1-zfs  usedbyrefreservation  0B                        -
pbs-1-zfs  logbias               latency                   default
pbs-1-zfs  objsetid              54                        -
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pbs-1-zfs  dnodesize             legacy                    default
pbs-1-zfs  refcompressratio      1.02x                     -
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pbs-1-zfs  keyformat             none                      default
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Chris · Wednesday at 15:55

Thanks for the traces and the outputs.

Bkts said:
I testet the capacity at 0 with a second PBS (which doesnt have a lot of backups). Here the GC run before the update was ~5 Mins. After the update it is ~25 Mins

Could you generate an strace output for the complete GC for that PBS datastore? Smaller (size and runtime) is better in this case, might be more easy to spot the culprit.

Edit: please do tune the cache capacity to the default value before generating the trace to reduce output by atime updates.

GC very slow after 3.4 update

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