Feature Request 2024: Multi-Cluster/Node Management?

[hellfire]

Are there any thought's on having a Multi-Cluster and/or Multi-Node-Management Option?

At the moment I have different Proxmox-VE Clusters running here as well as some single Nodes. For the future I'd like it more to have single nodes. instead of Clusters, because, when there's no shared Storage, there's no need for the higher requirements of a cluster. Since Cross-Cluster-Live Migration is basically working, a web interface would be very helpful here.

I saw that there's already a thread about this topic - but it's 5 Years old (2019 - Managing multiple Clusters). There's also a Software in Alpha Stage(cluster-manager.fr), whose author wants realize a multi-cluster-management tool. What's about the license isn't clear atm for me and atm the software is windows-only.

... lastly I assume, you have a lot other things to do, to welcome refugee customers from the Broadcom/VMware - Disaster

Regards,
h.

 

[Dunuin]

Are there any thought's on having a Multi-Cluster and/or Multi-Node-Management Option?

As far as I understand this should be added somewhere in the future. But right now they probably got enough work, making it easier to switch from ESXi to PVE. That "Import Wizard" thread is going through the roof right now with 109K views in just a week.
And looks like multi-cluster-management is a complex thing to integrate.

 

[dietmar]

And looks like multi-cluster-management is a complex thing to integrate.

But we are actively working on that...

 

[hellfire]

I checked out The Tool from cluster-manager.fr. Seems so it basically works. I can add all my clusters and nodes. Live Migration works only within clusters.

The tool and its author do not provide so much written Information about it - neither at the website nor in the program itself.

The tool is lagging here and there. (Connection to ~4 Clusters and 3 Single Nodes via Internet Connection).

There's not such a neat and tightly integrated console like the native pve Web-UI. For a software within alpha state: Not bad at all!

 

[gsmitheidw]

This isn't what you asked for but depending on what you're doing - Monit instances with M/Monit might be a useful way to keep track of systems spread across multiple nodes/clusters/VMs/lxc.

Whilst Monit is free and open source, M/Monit for managing multiple instances is commercial, but it is POSIX and supports a good project.

 

[gsmitheidw]

But we are actively working on that...

I still wake in cold sweats of the nightmare of potential single point of failure of vCenter. Sure you can have active, passive VM roles and restore from backup but there were too many things to go wrong. It was grand if you didn't do much - certainly those who had the most positive experiences had very static setups. But it certainly didn't feel very "devops". vCenter was more overlord than orchestration.

One thing I love about Proxmox over ESXi is everything is controllable from any node in a cluster. Not sure how that could transfer to multi-node/cluster. But I'll be very interested to see the design!

 

[tmoreno]

A good alternative is on the way https://multiportal.io, I have tried it, it is super interesting and it is improving every day.

Today it is in its beta release.It is worth taking a look and supporting the community.