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BOOOM! got it working thanks to the guys over at rockstor The correct syntax seems to be- "virtio0: /dev/sdc,cache=writeback,size=1863G,serial=WDC_WD20EZRX-00DC0B0_WD-WMC1T1453223"

Got it upgraded! However, backup didn't work. Not a big deal just re-installed application and restored that backup. Worked out better. Now if I can just get a HDD passed to a KVM I would be happy. Thanks again for the help.

Not working out for me.... virtio0: local:100/vm-100-disk-1.qcow2,cache=writeback,size=1863G,serial=WDC_WD20EZRX-00DC0B0_WD-WMC1T1453223 trying to pass to rockstor but rockstor only sees 100GB any help would be much appreciated. ooops- running PVE 4.1

Hold the phone! Think I got it. Formatted a 1TB in ext4, mounted that dude and trying to backup to that. It's working on it now. -that did the trick. No wonder the backup to the USB failed, the backup is 92GB!

Ok, here's where I am. learned how to mount and make FS's, got more comfortable using the terminal. Which is a good thing. So, I created a backup usb and got it show up in the GUI. WOOOHOOO:). I backed up one VM no problem, so I know the dragonslayrs instructions where right. This VM lives on...

@dragonslayr haven't punched out...just crazy busy, all of a sudden, and no time to implement your suggestions...I will though!

I have a 16 gb USB3 How do I determine the size of my VM's ? wait does this help,

OMG...WHAT A CLUSTER@#$%! I tried everything possible to break my PVE with a simple upgrade to 3.4. Evidently Proxmox is pretty noob resistant and I was able to get it done. Lesson 1 learned>> don't stop your router VM to do the update if that is the way your PVE has access to the internet...

Ok got it, Thank you. I know this was a very basic and rather obvious process but I want to be crystal clear on what to do........Two follow up questions.>>>> 1.)Where do I store the backup of the VM I want to save (Local, network, USB, other)?>>>> 2.)What is contained in the storage.cfg file?

I would like to upgrade from 3.3-1 to 4. I have read the instructions in the Proxmox Wiki and it seems straightforward but I have a couple of elementary questions about doing this via a new installation. Currently, I only have one VM (that I am concerned about) running. It is a Sophos UTM and it...