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Related question; Would it be worth while using a combination of ZFS and a "regular" file system. E.g. use ZFS for Proxmox host (rpool) and data storage (HDD pool) and use a single drive for VMs/LXCs as they can easily be backed up with snapshots?

I am starting to wonder if I should use ZFS for the VMs/LXCs at all. Since it is possible to do snapshots and backups of the VMs and containers in Proxmox without ZFS, would there be any great advantage of using it besides the redundancy aspect of putting them in a mirror configuration?

I expanded on my diagram a bit for a bit more visual presentation of what I'm looking for. I have searched the forum and Googled a lot trying to find some answers, but although I get the impression that the below setup is something people are doing I'm having a hard time finding any coherent and...

Hi, I could really need some input from some experts on how to best configure this setup. I understand there are some best practices and recommendations when it comes to using ZFS in Proxmox. My plan is to have three separate pools; one for installing Proxmox, one for VMs/LXCs and one for data /...

Thanks for the suggestions! Actually the Micron 7300 and the Samsung PM983 drive seems like good options. They are not to badly priced compared with the 970 PRO and have good TBW. The Micron 7300 PRO 960GB in particular is a good candidate. It costs around $190 and has a TBW of 1.9. I hope that...

Hmmm....maybe I need to change my plan a bit then. As I said I would really like to utilize the M.2 slots somehow and if there are not good enterprise M.2 SSD options that I can put my VMs on, perhaps I'll put 970 PRO in a ZFS mirror and install Proxmox on those (or is that just massive...

Actually, looking at the right place the S4610 is not too pricy at all. About $130. The S3710 is $560 though so waaay above what I can afford now. Btw: do you have any recommendations for any reasonably priced NVMe? I would really like to use my M.2 slots as I will have more space for storage...

Thank you again for taking the time with a very thorough and clarifying reply. It is really appreciated! So at least I should be OK with using one pair of the SSD for for Proxmox itself for now? It's not that I absolutely need to use ZFS for this. I just want a setup that is somewhat reliable...

True, but to do that assessment I need some knowledge and input ;) I have had my new ($2500) server-hardware standing unused now for 3 months because everytime I try to Google something going into details regarding my intended setup I find new limitations with the intended hardware and software...

Thanks for the input. Do you have separate SSD ZFS pools for Proxmox and the VMs/LXCs? I'm wondering what the wear on the Proxmox SSDs would be vs. the SSDs holding the VMs/LXCs (with separate HDD pool for the actual storage). Maybe I'm misunderstanding here, but if the monitoring tool is...

That is only a command line tool right? Are there any tools for more continuous monitoring that can maybe be logged over time? Yes, I am beginning to understand that might be an issue. There seems to be a lot of different opinions on this though. I've been getting some input from e.g. the...

I could really use some more input on this if anyone has any thoughts...

Thanks for the reply. I wanted primarily to use ZFS so that it would be easy to take snapshots and backups of my Proxmox install and the VMs/LXCs. (The storage pool will be also use ZFS, but those are industrial HDDs so should be not issue). So when you say 30GB/day that is just on the...

So I am reading some places that using ZFS on Samsung SSD drives will wear them out quickly. Is that correct? And does it apply to both the NVMe and the regular SSD? If so how should that affect my setup?

I am setting up a new Proxmox server that will function as a file-/media-server, running mostly LXC containers and maybe a 1-2 VMs. I have 2 x Samsung 250GB 870 EVO SATA SSDs and 2 x Samsung 512GB 970 PRO NVMe M.2 SSDs to use for the server OS/System/VMs. I could really use some input on how...

@Ramalama Many thanks for the reply. Regarding LXC I have been looking into this previously and I have decided to go with a VM. On top of everything else there is just to many extra factors to consider that might mess things up. I have the following hardware so it should be enough juice for...

I'm setting up a Proxmox VE server primarily for running an Ubuntu Server VM with several Docker services / containers for file-/media-hosting, but having the added flexibility of begin able to run additional VMs / LXC containers if required. The thought is to install Proxmox on two regular...

I have not yet used Docker for services like Plex and NextCloud, but quite a few others, and my experience is that any individualized changes and setup are always stored in config files which are not part the container itself. Isn't that kind of the whole point of docker containers? It is then...

Thanks for your input. I'm not sure I see any argument against using Docker in your reply though. In any case, does the fact that I choose to use Docker inside the Ubuntu VM affect the questions I have around the storage pool setup?

Maybe this illustrates better what I am trying to achieve. From my reading and research I get the impression that many have a setup like this, but I cannot find any detailed guides / explanations or best practices on how to structure, configure and bring the datasets into the VM to make them...