pve-no-subscription throttled?

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Morning all
I'm running the latest Proxmox VE on a mini-pc in my basement.
For some time now I found updates from the pve-no-subscription repository to be much slower "than they used to be" - somewhere between 100 kb/s and 200 kB/s today.
It's not a networking issue per se, because the VM (yes, only one ;-)) running on that VE server updates very fast.
Is this intentional throttling that has been set up more or less recently (I'm fine with that), or is it a configuration issue on my side?
Regards,
-Patrick
 
You did not tell us how you are connected to the internet and also hide the country you're in.

I am in Germany an I had downloaded >300 MB several times (once per node) during the last hours. There were 42 new packages in the pve-no-sub repository.

With my asymmetric DSL I downloaded them with a speed between 25 ... 78 ... 97 MByte/s.

So... for me the Proxmox repository is working fine :-)

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Edit: NO, my connection is NOT DSL - simply a wrong statement...
 
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UdoB said:
You did not tell us how you are connected to the internet and also hide the country you're in.

I am in Germany an I had downloaded >300 MB several times (once per node) during the last hours. There were 42 new packages in the pve-no-sub repository.

With my asymmetric DSL I downloaded them with a speed between 25 ... 78 ... 97 MByte/s.

So... for me the Proxmox repository is working fine :-)
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I am in Luxembourg, next to Germany.
As for speed, it's marketed as 500 Mb/s, and reality is quite close:

Code: 
root@pve ~ $  speedtest-cli
Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Testing from POST Luxembourg (83.99.xx.yy)...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Selecting best server based on ping...
Hosted by SYNLINQ (Frankfurt am Main) [191.22 km]: 21.064 ms
Testing download speed................................................................................
Download: 446.95 Mbit/s
Testing upload speed......................................................................................................
Upload: 236.24 Mbit/s

The repository I use is
deb http://download.proxmox.com/debian/pve bookworm pve-no-subscription

HTH,
-Patrick
 
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UdoB said:
You did not tell us how you are connected to the internet and also hide the country you're in.

I am in Germany an I had downloaded >300 MB several times (once per node) during the last hours. There were 42 new packages in the pve-no-sub repository.

With my asymmetric DSL I downloaded them with a speed between 25 ... 78 ... 97 MByte/s.

So... for me the Proxmox repository is working fine :-)
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you have 1gbit DSL? what provider is this?
 
uselpa said:
The repository I use is
deb http://download.proxmox.com/debian/pve bookworm pve-no-subscription
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Yes, I use (of course) the same one. It is a CDN, I don't know how to further test it, sorry.
 
beisser said:
you have 1gbit DSL? what provider is this?
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There are several providers (at different locations) offering this. In my case it is Vodafone, using the (cable-TV) copper network of former Kabeldeutschland.

Yes, 1 GBit/s arrives at the end user. And for the large CDNs it does actually deliver this.

The problem is, it is massively crippled: upstream is only 50 MBit/s. Serving anything from home - or saving backups externally - is no joy. Independent of the latency aspect.

If I had a symmetric offer I would switch - even if it would be "only" a few hundred MBit/s.

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Edit: NO, my connection is NOT DSL - simply a wrong statement...
 
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Mr.Doubt said:
This topic appear from time to time.
It may depend on the adress the DNS responds for download.proxmox.com
You may take a look at
https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/extremely-slow-download-of-updates.127316/
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Thanks, I found something similar later.
The cdn sometimes resolves to France (fr.), sometimes to Luxembourg (lu.)
I've fixed it to Luxembourg for now deb http://lu.eu.cdn.proxmox.com/debian/pve bookworm pve-no-subscription
We'll see at the next update.
Thanks.
 
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You cold test it for now
Code: 
wget http://lu.eu.cdn.proxmox.com/debian/pve/dists/bookworm/pve-no-subscription/binary-amd64/pve-kernel-6.2.16-5-pve_6.2.16-6_amd64.deb
 
Mr.Doubt said:
You cold test it for now
Code: 
wget http://lu.eu.cdn.proxmox.com/debian/pve/dists/bookworm/pve-no-subscription/binary-amd64/pve-kernel-6.2.16-5-pve_6.2.16-6_amd64.deb
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I get a consistent 1.3MB/s - that's more like it ;-)
The fr. one is around 830kB/s right now, but I guess there might be less activity on a Saturday morning.
I'll experiment with the cdn addresses next time it happens, thanks!
 
UdoB said:
There are several providers (at different locations) offering this. In my case it is Vodafone, using the (cable-TV) copper network of former Kabeldeutschland.

Yes, 1 GBit/s arrives at the end user. And for the large CDNs it does actually deliver this.

The problem is, it is massively crippled: upstream is only 50 MBit/s. Serving anything from home - or saving backups externally - is no joy. Independent of the latency aspect.

If I had a symmetric offer I would switch - even if it would be "only" a few hundred MBit/s.
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vodafone cable isnt dsl though. its cable internet or docsis if you want.
 
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beisser said:
vodafone cable isnt dsl though. its cable internet or docsis if you want.
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Damned, you caught me! Absolutely my fault. Terminology I do not use every day...
 
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