[SOLVED] local fs full: ghost files edition

aixz · Dec 9, 2023

Hello,

I'm having a local partition full problem

my 100Gb local fs is 95% full, but when I use ncdu it says I roughly use 30Gb
after checking with ncdu, I didn't find any abnormal artefact or tmp files, nothing to delete. To my understanding, 60Gb are ghost data that I can't find.

I looked at various posts about that and unfortunately found nothing that matches my usecase, I only found how to truncate log files ...

What could be wrong ? How to purge this ?

Code:

df -h
Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev                   16G     0   16G   0% /dev
tmpfs                 3.2G  3.1M  3.2G   1% /run
/dev/mapper/pve-root   98G   88G  5.2G  95% /
tmpfs                  16G   34M   16G   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs                 5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
efivarfs              192K   42K  146K  23% /sys/firmware/efi/efivars
/dev/nvme0n1p2        511M  336K  511M   1% /boot/efi
/dev/nvme1n1p1        1.8T  1.3T  480G  73% /mnt/samsung
/dev/sde1             1.8T   36K  1.7T   1% /mnt/usb-backup2to
/dev/sdb1              19T   17T  304G  99% /mnt/20to
/dev/sdc1             932G  492G  440G  53% /mnt/backupusb
/dev/sda1             7.3T  6.9T   37G 100% /mnt/8to
/dev/sdd1             3.7T  3.0T  697G  82% /mnt/4tox
/dev/fuse             128M   32K  128M   1% /etc/pve
tmpfs                 3.2G     0  3.2G   0% /run/user/0

Code:

ncdu /

28.4 TiB [#########################] /mnt
.  26.8 GiB [                         ] /var
    4.7 GiB [                         ] /usr
  328.9 MiB [                         ] /boot
   33.5 MiB [                         ] /dev
   10.3 MiB [                         ] /etc
    3.1 MiB [                         ] /run
  604.0 KiB [                         ] /root
   44.0 KiB [                         ] /tmp
   40.0 KiB [                         ]  proxmox_toolbox.sh
   36.0 KiB [                         ] /home
e  16.0 KiB [                         ] /lost+found
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /zfspool
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /zdata
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /srv
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /opt
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /media
    4.0 KiB [                         ]  syno.sh
.   0.0   B [                         ] /proc
    0.0   B [                         ] /sys
@   0.0   B [                         ]  libx32
@   0.0   B [                         ]  lib64
@   0.0   B [                         ]  lib32
@   0.0   B [                         ]  sbin
@   0.0   B [                         ]  lib
@   0.0   B [                         ]  bin

ncdu /mnt

   16.9 TiB [#########################] /20to
    6.8 TiB [##########               ] /8to
    3.0 TiB [####                     ] /4tox
    1.2 TiB [#                        ] /samsung
  491.8 GiB [                         ] /backupusb
   28.0 KiB [                         ] /usb-backup2to
    8.0 KiB [                         ] /pve
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /vzsnap0
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /syno-video
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /syno-music
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /syno-docs

ncdu /var/

.  20.7 GiB [#########################] /lib
    3.2 GiB [###                      ] /cache
    2.8 GiB [###                      ] /log
    3.3 MiB [                         ] /spool
    2.3 MiB [                         ] /backups
   32.0 KiB [                         ] /tmp
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /opt
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /mail
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /local
@   0.0   B [                         ]  lock
@   0.0   B [                         ]  run

ncdu /var/lib

   20.6 GiB [#########################] /vz
   82.8 MiB [                         ] /apt
   35.5 MiB [                         ] /dpkg
    8.1 MiB [                         ] /smartmontools
    6.0 MiB [                         ] /rrdcached
    2.2 MiB [                         ] /samba
    1.7 MiB [                         ] /pve-cluster
    1.0 MiB [                         ] /lxc
  712.0 KiB [                         ] /usbutils
  652.0 KiB [                         ] /systemd
  128.0 KiB [                         ] /ucf
  112.0 KiB [                         ] /pve-manager
   84.0 KiB [                         ] /nfs
   32.0 KiB [                         ] /swtpm-localca
   28.0 KiB [                         ] /pam
   20.0 KiB [                         ] /libxml-sax-perl
   16.0 KiB [                         ] /ifupdown2
   16.0 KiB [                         ] /qemu-server
   12.0 KiB [                         ] /grub
   12.0 KiB [                         ] /dictionaries-common
    8.0 KiB [                         ] /vim
    8.0 KiB [                         ] /sudo
    8.0 KiB [                         ] /bluetooth
    8.0 KiB [                         ] /logrotate
    8.0 KiB [                         ] /sgml-base
    8.0 KiB [                         ] /chrony
    8.0 KiB [                         ] /postfix
    8.0 KiB [                         ] /dbus
    4.0 KiB [                         ] /python
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /pve-firewall
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /pve
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /private
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /misc
    4.0 KiB [                         ] /man-db
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /git
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /dhcp
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /corosync
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /ceph
    4.0 KiB [                         ]  shells.state
.   0.0   B [                         ] /lxcfs

ncdu /var/lib/vz/

   20.6 GiB [#########################] /template
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /snippets
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /private
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /images
e   4.0 KiB [                         ] /dump

ncdu /var/lib/vz/template

   20.3 GiB [#########################] /iso
  363.6 MiB [                         ] /cache

ncdu /var/lib/vz/template/iso

    5.1 GiB [#########################]  Win11_22H2_French_x64.iso
    4.8 GiB [#######################  ]  ubuntu-23.10.1-desktop-amd64.iso
    3.6 GiB [#################        ]  tiny11_b2.iso
    3.2 GiB [###############          ]  debian-live-12.2.0-amd64-gnome.iso
    2.5 GiB [############             ]  tiny10_21H2_x64_2209.iso
  598.5 MiB [##                       ]  virtio-win-0.1.240.iso
  388.0 MiB [#                        ]  debian-11.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso

Code:

lsblk

NAME                         MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS
sda                            8:0    0   7.3T  0 disk
└─sda1                         8:1    0   7.3T  0 part /mnt/8to
sdb                            8:16   0  18.2T  0 disk
└─sdb1                         8:17   0  18.2T  0 part /mnt/20to
sdc                            8:32   0 931.5G  0 disk
└─sdc1                         8:33   0 931.5G  0 part /mnt/backupusb
sdd                            8:48   0   3.6T  0 disk
└─sdd1                         8:49   0   3.6T  0 part /mnt/4tox
sde                            8:64   0   1.8T  0 disk
└─sde1                         8:65   0   1.8T  0 part /mnt/usb-backup2to
nvme1n1                      259:0    0   1.8T  0 disk
└─nvme1n1p1                  259:1    0   1.8T  0 part /mnt/samsung
nvme0n1                      259:2    0 465.8G  0 disk
├─nvme0n1p1                  259:3    0  1007K  0 part
├─nvme0n1p2                  259:4    0   512M  0 part /boot/efi
└─nvme0n1p3                  259:5    0 465.3G  0 part
  ├─pve-swap                 252:0    0   7.6G  0 lvm  [SWAP]
  ├─pve-root                 252:1    0   100G  0 lvm  /
  ├─pve-data_tmeta           252:2    0   3.4G  0 lvm
  │ └─pve-data-tpool         252:4    0 334.8G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-data             252:5    0 334.8G  1 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--200--disk--0 252:6    0     8G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--201--disk--0 252:7    0     4G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--202--disk--0 252:8    0     6G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--205--disk--0 252:9    0     4G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--206--disk--0 252:10   0     8G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--207--disk--0 252:11   0     3G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--208--disk--0 252:12   0    10G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--209--disk--0 252:13   0     2G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--210--disk--0 252:14   0    40G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--211--disk--0 252:15   0     8G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--212--disk--0 252:16   0     2G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--300--disk--0 252:17   0    60G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--301--disk--0 252:18   0    60G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--110--disk--0 252:19   0    32G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--100--disk--0 252:20   0     4M  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--100--disk--1 252:21   0    32G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--203--disk--0 252:22   0    12G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--215--disk--0 252:23   0     2G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--213--disk--0 252:24   0     8G  0 lvm
  │   ├─pve-vm--204--disk--0 252:25   0     8G  0 lvm
  │   └─pve-vm--214--disk--0 252:26   0     8G  0 lvm
  └─pve-data_tdata           252:3    0 334.8G  0 lvm
    └─pve-data-tpool         252:4    0 334.8G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-data             252:5    0 334.8G  1 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--200--disk--0 252:6    0     8G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--201--disk--0 252:7    0     4G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--202--disk--0 252:8    0     6G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--205--disk--0 252:9    0     4G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--206--disk--0 252:10   0     8G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--207--disk--0 252:11   0     3G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--208--disk--0 252:12   0    10G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--209--disk--0 252:13   0     2G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--210--disk--0 252:14   0    40G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--211--disk--0 252:15   0     8G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--212--disk--0 252:16   0     2G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--300--disk--0 252:17   0    60G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--301--disk--0 252:18   0    60G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--110--disk--0 252:19   0    32G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--100--disk--0 252:20   0     4M  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--100--disk--1 252:21   0    32G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--203--disk--0 252:22   0    12G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--215--disk--0 252:23   0     2G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--213--disk--0 252:24   0     8G  0 lvm
      ├─pve-vm--204--disk--0 252:25   0     8G  0 lvm
      └─pve-vm--214--disk--0 252:26   0     8G  0 lvm

Code:

cat /etc/pve/storage.cfg

dir: local
        path /var/lib/vz
        content iso,vztmpl
        shared 0

lvmthin: local-lvm
        thinpool data
        vgname pve
        content rootdir,images

dir: backupusb
        path /mnt/backupusb
        content backup
        is_mountpoint 1
        mkdir 0
        prune-backups keep-all=1
        shared 1

nfs: usb-lapmox
        export /mnt/pve/usb
        path /mnt/pve/usb-lapmox
        server 192.168.1.90
        content backup
        mkdir 0
        prune-backups keep-all=1

dir: usb-backup2to
        path /mnt/usb-backup2to
        content backup
        is_mountpoint 1
        mkdir 0
        prune-backups keep-all=1
        shared 1

Code:

cat /etc/fstab

/dev/pve/root / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
UUID=F4BA-F910 /boot/efi vfat defaults 0 1
/dev/pve/swap none swap sw 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
#Samsung nvme 970EVO Plus
UUID=afebf45c-c8f1-4f0b-9f86-0b9ca12806f0 /mnt/samsung ext4 defaults 0 0
# Western 8TO
UUID=0700e121-85-c7-42c7-a004-cc7dcfd07981 /mnt/8to ext4 defaults,nofail 0 0
# 4TOX
UUID=3804E93504E8F6B2 /mnt/4tox ntfs defaults,nofail 0 0
# 20TO
UUID=93efe89c-ca80-40ef-8bb6-35960f6dc4d9 /mnt/20to ext4 defaults,nofail 0 0
# 1TO USB BACKUP
UUID=ECA807DDA807C4E4 /mnt/backupusb ntfs defaults,nofail 0 0
# 2TO USB BACKUP
UUID=99ad2380-264f-493a-b593-fc58dff6ed89 /mnt/usb-backup2to ext4 defaults,nofail 0 0

bbgeek17 · Dec 10, 2023

aixz said:
/dev/mapper/pve-root 98G 88G 5.2G 95% /

Your root partition is 98G
88G is used

aixz said:
26.8 GiB [ ] /var

aixz said:
4.7 GiB [ ] /usr

two significant parts account for 30G
You are still 58G short in your accounting.

Chances are that you wrote directly to one of the folders under /mnt when one of your external disks was NOT mounted.
Unmount all your disks, one at a time or all at the same time, then re-run your ndcu, or "du -h -x -d1 /mnt". I'd bet a donut that you will find your missing files.

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aixz · Dec 10, 2023

That's it.
i found duplicati's savefiles on one of the usb mounted drives. I wiped them and now I'm back to the normal 35Gb used on local fs.
I didn't thought of this.
Thank you very much !!

EcksteinU · Tuesday at 18:52

Hello,

I found this arcticle and believe to have the same or similar problem. Mid December I started with Proxmox and Home Assistant. To always have a fallback I attached an usb drive (500GB) to the mini PC and activated a backup which should store it's data on this drive. I watched the backup routine and it seems to work without errors.

Yesterday I realized that the backups are not stored as configured on my usb drive, but on the local drive. This drive now is compeltly full. I removed all tmp files, looked for log files, but can´t find where the backup files are.

So I did all analysis of this post:

Code:

[root@pve dev]# apt install ncdu
Installing:                     
  ncdu

Summary:
  Upgrading: 0, Installing: 1, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 18
  Download size: 51.5 kB
  Space needed: 122 kB / 0 B available

Warning: More space needed than available: 122 kB > 0 B, installation may fail
Error: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.


[root@pve dev]# df -h
Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev                  7.5G     0  7.5G   0% /dev
tmpfs                 1.6G  2.2M  1.6G   1% /run
/dev/mapper/pve-root   94G   91G     0 100% /
tmpfs                 7.6G   34M  7.5G   1% /dev/shm
efivarfs              128K   13K  111K  10% /sys/firmware/efi/efivars
tmpfs                 5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
tmpfs                 7.6G   28K  7.6G   1% /tmp
/dev/sda2            1022M  8.8M 1014M   1% /boot/efi
log2ram               256M   22M  235M   9% /var/log
tmpfs                 1.0M     0  1.0M   0% /run/credentials/systemd-journald.service
/dev/fuse             128M   20K  128M   1% /etc/pve
tmpfs                 1.0M     0  1.0M   0% /run/credentials/getty@tty1.service
tmpfs                 1.6G  4.0K  1.6G   1% /run/user/0


[root@pve dev]# lsblk
NAME                         MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS
sda                            8:0    0 476.9G  0 disk
├─sda1                         8:1    0  1007K  0 part
├─sda2                         8:2    0     1G  0 part /boot/efi
└─sda3                         8:3    0   475G  0 part
  ├─pve-swap                 252:0    0     8G  0 lvm  [SWAP]
  ├─pve-root                 252:1    0    96G  0 lvm  /var/hdd.log
  │                                                    /
  ├─pve-data_tmeta           252:2    0   3.5G  0 lvm 
  │ └─pve-data-tpool         252:4    0 347.9G  0 lvm 
  │   ├─pve-data             252:5    0 347.9G  1 lvm 
  │   ├─pve-vm--100--disk--0 252:6    0    32G  0 lvm 
  │   └─pve-vm--100--disk--1 252:7    0     4M  0 lvm 
  └─pve-data_tdata           252:3    0 347.9G  0 lvm 
    └─pve-data-tpool         252:4    0 347.9G  0 lvm 
      ├─pve-data             252:5    0 347.9G  1 lvm 
      ├─pve-vm--100--disk--0 252:6    0    32G  0 lvm 
      └─pve-vm--100--disk--1 252:7    0     4M  0 lvm 
sdb                            8:16   0 465.8G  0 disk
└─sdb1                         8:17   0 465.8G  0 part


[root@pve dev]# cat /etc/pve/storage.cfg
dir: local
        path /var/lib/vz
        content backup,iso,vztmpl,import

lvmthin: local-lvm
        thinpool data
        vgname pve
        content images,rootdir
        

[root@pve dev]# cat /etc/fstab
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
/dev/pve/root / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
UUID=9355-FC7E /boot/efi vfat defaults 0 1
/dev/pve/swap none swap sw 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/disk/by-uuid/484d68ab-9da7-490f-b22b-ac022548088c /mnt/usb/ ext4 defaults 0 1
    

[root@pve /]# du -shx /*
0       /bin
204M    /boot
0       /dev
6.7M    /etc
4.0K    /home
0       /lib
0       /lib64
16K     /lost+found
4.0K    /media
86G     /mnt
12M     /opt
du: cannot access '/proc/896517/task/896517/fd/4': No such file or directory
du: cannot access '/proc/896517/task/896517/fdinfo/4': No such file or directory
du: cannot access '/proc/896517/fd/3': No such file or directory
du: cannot access '/proc/896517/fdinfo/3': No such file or directory
du: cannot access '/proc/896518': No such file or directory
0       /proc
136K    /root
2.2M    /run
0       /sbin
4.0K    /srv
0       /sys
0       /tmp
4.5G    /usr
316M    /var


[root@pve log]# mount
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,relatime)
udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,nosuid,relatime,size=7849456k,nr_inodes=1962364,mode=755,inode64)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=600,ptmxmode=000)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=1578040k,mode=755,inode64)
/dev/mapper/pve-root on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,inode64)
cgroup2 on /sys/fs/cgroup type cgroup2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
none on /sys/fs/pstore type pstore (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
efivarfs on /sys/firmware/efi/efivars type efivarfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
bpf on /sys/fs/bpf type bpf (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,mode=700)
systemd-1 on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type autofs (rw,relatime,fd=37,pgrp=1,timeout=0,minproto=5,maxproto=5,direct,pipe_ino=7264)
mqueue on /dev/mqueue type mqueue (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
debugfs on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
tracefs on /sys/kernel/tracing type tracefs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
hugetlbfs on /dev/hugepages type hugetlbfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,pagesize=2M)
tmpfs on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k,inode64)
fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
configfs on /sys/kernel/config type configfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,size=7890188k,nr_inodes=1048576,inode64)
/dev/sda2 on /boot/efi type vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)
binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
/dev/mapper/pve-root on /var/hdd.log type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
log2ram on /var/log type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,noatime,size=262144k,mode=755,inode64)
tmpfs on /run/credentials/systemd-journald.service type tmpfs (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,nosymfollow,size=1024k,nr_inodes=1024,mode=700,inode64,noswap)
sunrpc on /run/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw,relatime)
ProxMenux-Monitor.AppImage on /tmp/.mount_ProxMeujUV2W type fuse.ProxMenux-Monitor.AppImage (ro,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0)
lxcfs on /var/lib/lxcfs type fuse.lxcfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other)
/dev/fuse on /etc/pve type fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other)
tmpfs on /run/credentials/getty@tty1.service type tmpfs (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,nosymfollow,size=1024k,nr_inodes=1024,mode=700,inode64,noswap)
tracefs on /sys/kernel/debug/tracing type tracefs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
tmpfs on /run/user/0 type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=1578036k,nr_inodes=394509,mode=700,inode64)

For further analysis I'm currently not able to install "ncdu". I'm quite new with Linux so please excuse my missing knowledge. I think I also did unmount my usb drive.

I also tried to access pve-root, where the files in my understanding seem to be, but I was unable to access it. What am I doing wrong.

Thanks in advance for you kind support and have a nice day.
Uli

Impact · Tuesday at 18:55

The space usage is in /mnt. Check there

Bash:

du -shc /mnt* | sort -h

EcksteinU · Tuesday at 20:13

Thanks a lot. I found the files in /mnt/usb/dump/vzdump*. I did remove the files and was able to install ncdu. This hopefully helps me in future to analyze such problems myself.

What i don't understand is why the backups were stored on my local drive instead of the usb drive as the backup was configured.

Again thanks a lot for your kind support
Uli

bbgeek17 · Tuesday at 20:19

EcksteinU said:
What i don't understand is why the backups were stored on my local drive instead of the usb drive as the backup was configured.

The backup was configured to store files in a folder /mnt/usb/dump. It does not know whether that folder is backed by USB, NVMe, or Cloud drive. At some point when the backup was executed the USB was either not present or not recognized. The files then were written directly to the folder on local disk.

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Impact · Tuesday at 20:53

I recommend gdu. It's faster. To fix the issue above use this on the unmounted directory: https://serverfault.com/questions/5...ng-data-to-an-unmounted-mount-point-directory

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