Common hardware in use for small home PBS installations?

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Curious to find out from the community what hardware ppl are using for their home backups.

Aware of the system reqs, but curious if anyone has PBS installed on NAS hardware like Synology or a cheaper QNAP?

Alternatives I'm considering are just banging together a small ITX and letting that handle.
 
I'm running PBS inside a VM on a TrueNAS server (Supermicro X10SLL-F, Intel E3-1230v3; 32 GB DDR3 ECC; LSI 9211-8i; Intel S3710; WD Whites). But atleast with PBS 1.X there was no video output with the official PBS Iso so I needed to install Debian and PBS ontop of that. Works fine so far but don't expect your backups to be fast if you use HDDs or a NFS share as a datastore.
 
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Hmmmm yeh ok cool.... coz I've got a Gigabyte Mz72-HBO on the way for virtualization and I'm wondering if I actually need an external machine for backup.

I could just as easily pack the SATA ports and run PBS inside another VM, which would make file backup laser quick (which now that I think about it I'll definitely do that).... BUT, what about system restore? Facebook only just taught us all a lesson in the perils of self-reliant architecture.

Should I be concerned? To me it makes sense to have at least something local to restore PVE in the event of a system meltdown, but maybe that's not a thing I should be worried about?
 
You can run PBS baremetal or in a LXC/VM on your PVE server. But keep in mind that in case of a problem with your PVE itself you can't access your backups anymore. So you would need to do a fresh PVE install, then create a new PBS VM/LXC, import your old PBS datastore to the new PBS and only after that you will be able restore your other VMs/LXCs. So it will work but you will need to do some extra steps in case of a bigger problem.
And you might want a offsite/offline backup of your PBS datastore too. Backups on disks in the same host or another host next to it won't help much in case of ransomware, a fire, lightning strike and so on.

And later it should be possible to backup the complete PVE host to your PBS so you don't need to install PVE from scratch. But that won't work if your PBS is virtualized on your PVE.

And like I already said, PBS isn't designed to use network shares or HDDs. Everything will be split into millions of small files and HDDs/NFS are really crappy at going through millions of files each time you do a garbage collection or verify job. So it will work but really slow. Got 10Gbit NICs and doing a garbage collection of a 300GB datastore easily takes over an hour where the disks are at 100% utilization because they can't handle the IOPS.
 
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You can run PBS baremetal or in a LXC/VM on your PVE server. But keep in mind that in case of a problem with your PVE itself you can't access your backups anymore. So you would need to do a fresh PVE install, then create a new PBS VM/LXC, import your old PBS datastore to the new PBS and only after that you will be able restore your other VMs/LXCs. So it will work but you will need o do some extra steps in case of a bigger problem.
And you might want a offsite/offline backup of your PBS datastore too. Backups on disks in the same host or another host next to it won't help much in case of ransomware, a fire, lightning strike and so on.

And later it should be possible to backup the complete PVE host to your PBS so you don't need to install PVE from scratch. But that won't work if your PBS is virtualized on your PVE.

And like I already said, PBS isn't designed to use network shares or HDDs. Everything will be split into millions of small files and HDDs or NFS are really crappy at going through millions of files each time you do a garbage collection or verify job. So it will work but really slow. Got 10Gbit NICs and doing a garbage collection of a 300GB datastore easily takes over an hour where the disks are at 100% utilizations because they can't handle the IOPS.

Exactly my concerns...

So... dedicated hardware it is!
 
I ended up getting a new build for this... tried to go a second hand unit but didn't work for my purposes. Only downside to going for a consumer unit is I didn't get ECC, but if all else fails then the offsite will be recoverable.

BOM:
- Gigabyte A320M-S2H mobo
- Antec VSK3000/U3 mini tower
- 16GB Vengeance RAM
- Cougar VTE Bronze PSU
- 8TB of QVO SSD
- Icy Dock 4 bay hotswap (MB994SP-4SB-1)
- AMD Athlon 3000G

It goes super zoomy.
 
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