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i didnt post because i couldn't figure out a solution i posted because its a needless exclusion that causes frustration for no good reason, ifconfig and arp are still included in basically every linux distro and widely used and they're all of a couple kilobytes, it was a small frustration but...

why? its tiny, its what everyone is accustom too. anyway thats my biggest complaint i lost interest as soon as i realized i have to ip addr to get connectivity and went back to vmware thanks no arp either?! is the couple KB you saved int he iso worth the frustration it causes?