Age verification is identity verification - archLinux32 banned in Brazil.
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The chosen title is far from reality. archLinux32 isn't banned, the project restricted access to users in Brazil by own choice.
And it has nothing to do with ProxmoxVE. I also don't get why somebody would use ProxmoxVE as Desktop OS, it's not really suited for that usecase. Debian + virt-manager or Virtualbox would be a better fit.
Apropos Debian: They also have discussions on these quite moronic laws and how to deal with them:
- Developer mailing list: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2026/03/msg00016.html
- Userforum: https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=165947
Apropos Debian: They also have discussions on these quite moronic laws and how to deal with them:
- Developer mailing list: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2026/03/msg00016.html
- Userforum: https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=165947
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doesnt matter, because it *can* be used as a desktop. And yes, the authorities didnt directly ban the site, the site opted to self-ban to avoid any possible criminal action against them. (Why I use it (because it's debian anyway, and has a nice ZFS root install) is kinda immaterial.)
It doesnt matter what the OS is "aimed" at, it's wether it's capable of being used as a desktop for internet apps by 'children'. Which obviously PVE is.
Which highlights the ridiculousness of the law, but companies are trying to comply. California is another locale bringing in AV, and one distribution now has a label disclaimer "not for use in California". Whether that shields them from legal action is another question.
Note that many many other jurisdictions are bringing in such laws, this is a worldwide phenomenon. Many questions abound because of the vagueness and mismatches of the application of the law, and the technical unworkability for open platforms that arent captured garden-walled devices like phones or tablets.
This is actually a surreptitious attack on open and libre computing, which Cory Doctorow has been agitating against for a couple decades now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg Cory Doctorow: 28c3: The coming war on general computation - Chaos Communications Congress
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There is a different analysis of the situation: https://dev.to/phalkmin/no-brazils-felca-law-doesnt-ban-linux-4jj0
They will forbid to possess a hammer as it can be used by teens and you can kill people with it. Oh, wait..., to sell/own weapons is ok.
This is completely off-topic in this forum - no further reply necessary... :-(
A newspaper article isnt going to cover legal liability for companies when they point at it for authorities. No one wants to become the test case of a new law. So they proactively try to (over-)comply, not knowing the 'over-' part is 'over' til someone tests it in court (a few times). Wondering what proxmox is going to do for their legal liability is not out of scope for the PVE OS.
Well they are not based in the US, so they might decide to not care although it would jeopardize their potential in getting a market share on the american market. My guess that at the moment they have better things to do because after all it's not like ProxmoxVE is intended to be run by minors.
No, but if I understand correctly, the article is quoting the law:
“all IT products or services that are directed at children and adolescents in Brazil or that they are likely to access.”
Of course, we’ll have to wait until precedents are established, but I’d say Proxmox is neither an “general purpose operating system” (California) nor does it “offer services aimed at children” (Brazil).
I don't know much about the ArchLinux32 project or the people behind it, but there may as well be a fair amount of activism involved. In other words, it could simply be a form of protest.
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