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    Default proxmox-ve + openfiler = for home use?

    Hello guys,
    I thought about a solution for using pm-ve in cooperation with openfiler on two different physical consumer machines. No HW-RAID, no special enterprise disks, no special boards, just some consumer mobos, cpus and disks.

    Right now I got 1x mobo m2a-mx, 1x amd 3800+ X2, 2x 200GB, 3x 500GB HDD, 2x 1GB ram, 2x 2GB ram and a lot of sparetime due to holidays

    If possible, I would like to use just one machine for the whole "do some stuff in virtual environments, while having some vm's for apache2/mysql/samba that do some real work, while the real data is save and not affected when proxmox can't handle my experiments" :>

    I'm sure this isn't enterprise like, but I'd like to try to get in that direction for the best buck I get.

    I got some questions in general and for best practise purposes.

    1. Is that in general a good idea?
    2. Is it possible to mount some real LV's instead of using qcow2 files into the virtual machine? (i did something like that with xen on an ubuntu host)
    3. Are there any further suggestions you would like to give me on my way?

    Your ideas are much appreciated.
    Thanks in advance!

    bye, darude
    aka Benjamin Griese

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    Quote Originally Posted by darude View Post
    Hello guys,
    I thought about a solution for using pm-ve in cooperation with openfiler on two different physical consumer machines. No HW-RAID, no special enterprise disks, no special boards, just some consumer mobos, cpus and disks.

    Right now I got 1x mobo m2a-mx, 1x amd 3800+ X2, 2x 200GB, 3x 500GB HDD, 2x 1GB ram, 2x 2GB ram and a lot of sparetime due to holidays

    If possible, I would like to use just one machine for the whole "do some stuff in virtual environments, while having some vm's for apache2/mysql/samba that do some real work, while the real data is save and not affected when proxmox can't handle my experiments" :>

    I'm sure this isn't enterprise like, but I'd like to try to get in that direction for the best buck I get.

    I got some questions in general and for best practise purposes.

    1. Is that in general a good idea?
    2. Is it possible to mount some real LV's instead of using qcow2 files into the virtual machine? (i did something like that with xen on an ubuntu host)
    3. Are there any further suggestions you would like to give me on my way?

    Your ideas are much appreciated.
    Thanks in advance!

    bye, darude
    aka Benjamin Griese
    take a look on our roadmap - we will implement a flexible storage pools so you can use storage provided by openfiler (or any other SAN).

    ad 2: not yet, but itīs on the roadmap.
    (Mounting ISCSI is basically already possible and working but nothing integrated)
    Best regards,
    Tom

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    thanks for your reply

    Quote Originally Posted by tom View Post
    take a look on our roadmap - we will implement a flexible storage pools so you can use storage provided by openfiler (or any other SAN).
    Ok when the DAS-Pool is implemented I would prefer that, due to less power consumption when I use only one system that fits my needs.
    Is there a raw timescale this feature is available, maybe in an early beta?
    Stability is not the big deal in my case.

    Quote Originally Posted by tom View Post
    ad 2: not yet, but itīs on the roadmap.
    (Mounting ISCSI is basically already possible and working but nothing integrated)
    Does that work for the pm-ve host or/and for the running vm's?
    I basically thought about a solution over cifs/nfs where I mount /var/lib/vz to and everything works fine.
    But an iSCSI solution like every vm gets its own LUN i.e. would be nice too.

    Keep up the good work on your product and this outstanding forum/mailinglist support!!

    bye darude

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    Quote Originally Posted by darude View Post
    thanks for your reply



    Ok when the DAS-Pool is implemented I would prefer that, due to less power consumption when I use only one system that fits my needs.
    Is there a raw timescale this feature is available, maybe in an early beta?
    Stability is not the big deal in my case.
    I hope to get something end of Q1/09 - if you want to speed up development support the project:

    • donate some money
    • help other users in the forum
    • suggest Proxmox VE to other to increase popularity
    • report bugs



    Quote Originally Posted by darude View Post
    Does that work for the pm-ve host or/and for the running vm's?
    I basically thought about a solution over cifs/nfs where I mount /var/lib/vz to and everything works fine.
    But an iSCSI solution like every vm gets its own LUN i.e. would be nice too.

    Keep up the good work on your product and this outstanding forum/mailinglist support!!

    bye darude
    as I wrote you can do ISCSI mounts on Proxmox VE means the Kernel and the needed packages should be already here. But not tested and integrated in Proxmox VE so I cannot give an answers or details here - just google for iscsi and debian.
    Best regards,
    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom View Post
    I hope to get something end of Q1/09 - if you want to speed up development support the project:

    • donate some money
    • help other users in the forum
    • suggest Proxmox VE to other to increase popularity
    • report bugs
    Yeah, thats what I'm doing atleast for point 2 and 3.
    The most ppl I talked to were very intrested, but bit in the ass, cause they use in most cases old consumer hardware without the for kvm neccessary cpu features. Bad luck for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by tom View Post
    as I wrote you can do ISCSI mounts on Proxmox VE means the Kernel and the needed packages should be already here. But not tested and integrated in Proxmox VE so I cannot give an answers or details here - just google for iscsi and debian.
    I'm right now reading into the whole materia, working with the netapp simulator, cause our CX3-20 in the lab doesn't support iscsi.

    cya, darude

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